willieH: Hi Molly...
Hey, Willie, you can go on warning people against me but it's kind of a waste of time since people aren't exactly falling at my feet saying, Thank you for clearing that up! LOL However, I'm just going to push on and tell it like *I see it.* But, you and I both know--no one's teaching me this stuff at any church.
Not warning anyone, just showing them the descrepancies in your beliefs...
Oh, but it is more than apparent Molly... for it barks of ORTHODOXY... I do not wish to discredit your dedication to GOD nor your study efforts... but the result still remains ORTHODOX in its conclusion....
This whole week from 'palm sunday' to 'easter sunday'
Please Molly, note the Scriptures which name "PALM SUNDAY" and "EASTER SUNDAY"... you see to have OMITTED them...
The big question is--what day is Passover?
I totally agree... but in using UNBIBLICAL "DAY" designations, such as PALM SUNDAY
... your view veers off the narrow
BIBLICAL pathway onto the WIDE
freeway of RELIGION...
On what Biblical passage do you base John 12:1
as being a SUNDAY? (first day of the week)
In our case, the Lamb is chosen on what we call 'palm sunday.'
Who is "WE
" and "OUR
", Molly? You and your church?
Let me make note that: I am not part of "OUR" above, ...nor do I call
ANY DAY, ..."PALM SUNDAY
This means that according to God's law above, the Passover should happen four days later, or, on thursday.
No according to YOUR religious and unfounded notation of DAYS, which are absent of Scriptural reference which indicates WHICH day is which... it falls on "thursday"
However, John tells us that 'palm sunday' happens 5 days before Passover. This means that Passover is actually happening on Friday.
Again, what verse in John notes PALM SUNDAY
As is your continuing habit, you use RELIGIOUS terms within your THEOLOGICAL presentations, and conveniently abstain from quoting supportive Scripture because there IS NONE...
But, what does happen on thurday, four days after the triumphal march into Jerusalem, is the last supper, which happens the day before Passover. This is not the actual Passover feast--however, it is a private 'passover' between Jesus and his disciples. Jesus hands himself over to satan at this meal (the lamb is killed) and the hour of darkness begins.
Until you establish with SCRIPTURE Molly, that THURSDAY is the valid day, then we must find other ways in which to calculate and find the PROPHETIC Words of JESUS
As I have already done in this thread, a few posts ago...
Quoting these verses concerning the process, does not give verification of the SIGN JESUS
gave, nor does it establish your time frame, for there is NO SUCH BIBLICAL term as PALM SUNDAY
, nor is the term EASTER
a BIBLICAL term for that matter...
In the KJV
, EASTER appears ONCE (Acts 12:4)
and is translated from the word PASCHA
(Strongs #G3957) which, in the 28 other verses it appears, it is translated PASSOVER
And what do you know of EASTER
Molly? Its origin is found in paganism, exalting the goddess ISHTAR... and these TAINTED tidbits have crept into the church's doctrine along with bunnies
...both signs of ISHTAR, ...the PAGAN goddess of FERTILITY
... and are blindly adopted by YOU...
So there you go, Jesus hands himself over to satan, literally, figuratively. This is the spiritual slaying of the Lamb. This is the power of darkness.
Spiritual slaying of the Lamb?
More UNBIBLICAL notation... JESUS
did not "hand Himself to satan" Molly... Please note the verse in which He did so...
You cannot see your own web...
Molly, once again this is primarily, YOUR IMAGINED version of this... JESUS
submitted to the officers, chief priests and Pharisees, because GOD decided He should do so, he did not "turn Himself in"... as you wish to portray...
They entered the garden, and He asked them "whom seek ye"... They replied JESUS
of NAZERETH... and JESUS
replied, I am HE... He did not go to them (which is "handing Himself over") they came for HIM... (John 18:1-12)
The next thing he does is offer his body and blood to his disciples in a private and literal eating of the passover Lamb of God.
1 Corinthians 11:24
And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
You have quoted verses, but they do not establish your doctrinal claims... Instead you enter ever more UNBIBLICAL, terms such as PALM SUNDAY
, and PAGAN ones such as EASTER.
ALL the verses you have quoted are STILL in harmony with my previous post Molly...
The actual Passover feast will be the next day, the day that Jesus is crucified, but this last supper communion is the true Passover of the New Covenant, between Jesus and his followers.
So, for me, I am satisfied--for now-- to start counting (although I do not need a sign) from the moment he hands himself over to satan on Thursday.
Please... more imagined and unnoted poppycock... Note to us the verse in which CHRIST
handed Himself over to "satan"...
You have not established days Molly... I'll be waiting for your "PALM SUNDAY
" verse Molly...
(of course, won't be holding my breath, as usual) NEW YEARS will come and go, and you still will not have provided it...
He was NOT in the HEART of the EARTH the day before the Passover feast Molly... He was placed in the TOMB, just before the PASSOVER (not weekly) SABBATH came on, and IN the TOMB... He remained for 3 days and 3 nights
JUST like HE SAID
... not like YOU
Believe your own UNBIBLICAL beliefs, they are yours... and you are welcome to them...
As for me, I shall believe what IS WRITTEN
... which does not need to be explained AWAY as you endeavor to do here, with the SIGN
which was the SIGN of the MESSIAH... JONAH
was IN the belly of the whale 3 days and 3 nights... JESUS
was in the tomb exactly as IT SAYS... not as you propose it to be...