to try to get back on topic:
"Zeek, you don't seem to be hearing most of my posts on the subject of me believing I am circumcised and I will be circumcised and I am becoming circumcised. I just cannot see Scripture on one level. It is too much like a diamond to do so. So many faceted to see just one angle.
I am concerned about the responsibility issue. So if you do something wrong like speeding in your car and you go to court, do you say to the judge that it was your flesh doing it not you so you are innocent? Again, I am being serious. You have good responses and I am learning.
What i believe is that the "flesh" is an identity, a "who we are". It's based off of self, in the absence of revealed unconditional love.
I am not that "identity" anymore, I am ONE with the Father.
To identify with "the flesh" is to deny Christ. My spirit testifies with His Spirit that I am a child of God. I am HIS. Any act or deed that is "sinful" is not me, as that would mean my Father is a sinner. My identity is HIM.
I believe as long as we are humans, there will be "sinful" acts or "wrong doings"; but praise God, I am no longer "identified" with that, it no longer is me. My response is PRAISE and THANKS.
I am the one who is "aware" of these "wrong acts", but no longer the sinner doing them. They can continue, and likely will continue throughout my life; but they are not me.
If I put a chair, a key, and a picture in front of u and asked "which one of these is you", I don't think u'd have a problem saying "none of them". You are the one aware of those objects. Sin, "flesh", "wrong deeds" are things I am aware of, but they are not me. The more I resist doing them, the more identified I am with them, and the more they persist.