Jesus in John 10:37-38;" If I do not do the works of my Father, do not believe me, but if I do them, though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may understand."
Jesus was the author and perfector of our faith, not one growing in it, in him there was no darkness.
1 Timothy 1:16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.
Who did Gods work after Jesus left?
Well, to start with, the aposles, and all throughout the centuries whom have carried the Gospel to our ears. (how did you hear about Jesus Christ, from heaven or from man)
Were they called to save this world, or to just pass down truth information to those who are like you?
Whatever their calling was, what I received was repentance for my sins, faith in he whom the Eternal Father sent, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit.
You know your world is one that I avoid, God be praised, this is why I walk alone. I do not want to be influenced by these estimates of God. I prefer to be outside of these things.
It is not you walking alone that got us in this conversation in the first place or what I considered to be "a problem", but rather your argument that was written for all to read, members and non-members alike, that believers do not have the Holy Spirit indwelling. Just sayin...
Paul in Gal. 6:15;" For neither is circumcision anything, nor uncircumcision anything, but a new creation." This is the new exulation of the new life.
Galatians 6:15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
16 And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.
There was still alot of people back then whom had trouble accepting that uncircimcised Gentiles had any part with God, also that the covenant for eternal life had nothing to do with works of the law. This was the point of the verses.
It does not matter how much the desire of people who claim God to be in them is proclaimed, they do not have a new life, they still have the same life.
Simply untrue, my life has changed dramatically since I received the Holy Spirit. My desire for God consumes my entire life. If you have not received a witness as of yet concerning this, then know that I have just witnessed to you right now.
They may hold a differing outlook, but they are not a new creation.
Again, untrue. There is a new life and God is the whole focus, everything else is distraction.
They are still human. Still flesh, and nothing can change that, except the new birth.
Those whom are born again, and are taught by the Holy Spirit begin to not care about the things of this world or the things of this flesh, each on different levels in accordance to the measure of faith that is bestowed upon them.
Are you speaking about the flesh being born again? Or are you saying our fleshly bodies are not, nor the fleshly bodies of any whom ever were in the flesh (apostles included) temple of the Holy Ghost? This would be scripturally inaccurate, and if your using a reference beside scripture, may I know what it is? Are you saying that no man while in the flesh has received the Holy Ghost? Do you not consider that receiving the Holy Ghost while in the flesh
was what was referred to as being born again?
Now this just doesn't make any sense, as you believe the apostles were filled with the Holy Spirit, and they were in the flesh, but are now saying we cannot receive the Holy Spirit while in the flesh??
Galatians 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his
Here is some of the accurate description of the Holy Spirit indwelling believers:
Romans 8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies
by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
I hope now that you understand that being born again was speaking of receiving the Holy Spirit while in a body of flesh, while in a mortal body. Do you see in Romans 8:10-14 that those being spoken to were in the flesh? There a many places that show that being Baptized in the Holy Spirit (AKA being born again) had nothing to do with being buried in the graveyard or cremated.