I keep hearing that, but that is not applicable within the environment we are in- "the ages". Within the ages God communicates with us through the Logos which continually refers to past, present & future- and holds us accountable to the constraints of time. I find it a bit assuming that anyone wants to "speak for God" as if the language of the scripture is archaic because "God sees everything as if it is finished" AND I beg to differ :O).
God is with us here in time.
The Potter's wheel is here in time, and while God most certainly transcends time, HE SPEAKS TO US IN IT- and the language He uses is not the language of the finished work, but the language of the ongoing process WITH AN EYE OF HOPE TOWARDS the finished work.
For in hope we have been saved, but hope that is seen is not hope; for who hopes for what he already sees? But if we hope for what we do not see, with perseverance we wait eagerly for it.
(Rom 8:24-25)
I never assumed to "speak for God" as you suggested. I simply quoted Isaiah 46:10 to show that God sees future events as if they have already happened and already been done. I am perfectly aware that God must still work out our salvation in this age, and in the ages to come.
rj, I was not speaking to anyone in particular, but I was responding to Ded's post with a smile on :o). I speak of ideas and perceptions only, and it just isnt at all personal to me. I was speaking to what I perceive(rightly or wrongly, it is just my perception) as a bias against the language of scripture as it applies to life "in time", the exercise of our will, and accountability for it. By "speaking for God"(maybe "speaking as if I had God's perspective" would have been more accurate) I was simply expressing the idea that speaking in the language of scripture is the "media" of the mind of Christ- there is no gainsaying (of the exhortations of the Logos ) of the Word by a philosophy(again, merely my perception) that seems to me sometimes to by-pass the scripture. God IS omniscient, but we aren't and He doesn't speak to us on His own level very often- that is where the tree of knowledge of good and evil always trips us up(IMO). The tree of life is the living and abiding, Quickened and Activated, word of God- the Sword of His mouth- and it is often quite time conscious I think.
In other words, if God sees everything as done, why is He speaking so often to us in the Logos about what we are doing, and the consequences of the things we do or don't do.
I believe as far as we are concerned, we are better off to hear what He IS SAYING TODAY ABOUT WHAT WE ARE DOING, than speculating about how He sees every moment through out all history at once(as I am sure He does), and I say that only because I think He expresses that Himself,
"Let the one who has ears to hear hear what the Spirit is saying to the churches"
"Today, if you hear my voice, harden not your hearts as they did in the wilderness and saw my works"....which the writer sets forth as the entrance to the Sabbath rest. So, meaning no offense to anyone I was just, doing my bit to throw a little weightt on the "other side of the balance" and I am sorry if it was taken in any other way. Sometimes we(any of us) don't have time to craft these posts perfectly and it is surely an imperfect medium...... And as I was addressing Ded2daworld's post I just didnt think he would be offended or that anyone else would take it as personally directed.
