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Re: Trolls
« Reply #100 on: February 19, 2009, 08:26:31 PM »
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The sword is what separated the head . . . those who live by the sword .  . die by it.  


Thats the way Trolls roll ,  word.



Paul, you are on a roll!
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Re: Trolls
« Reply #101 on: February 19, 2009, 08:29:08 PM »


  Well, it makes me think of Benjamin getting 5 times

  the amount at Joseph"s table.

  He was testing them to see if their jealous nature still

  remained.

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Re: Trolls
« Reply #102 on: February 19, 2009, 08:36:18 PM »
 :cloud9: Wow Sheila, that's good. Because that's exactly what happened to prevent God's plan from coming forth perfected thru the 5 fold pattern. Jealousy pretty much eliminated most of the 5 fold, with the pastor "office" coming out on top.

I tell you how He dealt with jealousy in me, though. He made it plain to me that the gifts were HIM in operation, and how could I, a mere mortal speck of dust, be jealous of HIM, as if there could be ANY comparison? It just didn't "compute", it was irrational to me, to even entertain the thought that in essence the jealousy was trying to compete with HIM.

That helped me in the beginning of my walk when it raised up in me, because someone I knew was manifesting more gifts before me, even though we were raised up together. Changing the way I thought ala the Lord, brought repentance and that brought deliverance. Isn't that always the way it works? It is for me. Blessings....
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Re: Trolls
« Reply #103 on: February 19, 2009, 08:43:48 PM »


  RIGHT ON!!

   It is so wonderful to LOVE THE GIFTS IN OTHERS

   AND BE BUILT UP IN THEM!!!!


    LOVE ONE ANOTHER INTENSELY FROM THE

        HEART!! :girlheart:


   See your brother,see God

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Re: Trolls
« Reply #104 on: February 19, 2009, 08:44:31 PM »


  Well, it makes me think of Benjamin getting 5 times

  the amount at Joseph"s table.

  He was testing them to see if their jealous nature still

  remained.

Benjamin--the son of the right hand.


"Benjamin"

H1144
בּנימין
binyâmîyn
bin-yaw-mene'
From H1121 and H3225; son of (the) right hand; Binjamin, youngest son of Jacob; also the tribe descended from him, and its territory: - Benjamin.


Exodus 15:6
Thy right hand, O LORD, is become glorious in power: thy right hand, O LORD, hath dashed in pieces the enemy.



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Re: Trolls
« Reply #105 on: February 19, 2009, 08:49:39 PM »
 :cloud9: Yep, Sheila....seeing Him manifesting in others now brings tears to my eyes, because I see not them, but HIM. He appears to those that are looking for Him! We look for HIS APPEARING in the new "heavens" (mind of Christ) in OTHERS, in the clouds with rain, ie. those have been ground to powder (clouds/dust same word) until their only purpose is to carry HIM (the rain) to pour out on the dry ground of others. His ways are glorious! Blessings....
"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor

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Re: Trolls
« Reply #106 on: February 19, 2009, 08:55:00 PM »
Benjamin--

The second son of the beloved wife.

Genesis 35:18
And it came to pass, as her soul was in departing, (for she died) that she called his name Benoni: but his father called him Benjamin.


"Benoni"

H1126
בּן־אוני
ben-'ônîy
ben-o-nee'
From H1121 and H205; son of my sorrow; Ben Oni, the original name of Benjamin: - Ben-oni.



As the second son, Benjamin is a type of Christ.  But his older brother, Joseph, is a type of Christ, also, which makes Benajamin a type of us--the younger brothers of Christ.
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Re: Trolls
« Reply #107 on: February 19, 2009, 08:59:08 PM »
Hey another basic (hopefully not too stupid sounding again) question, but I have always heard too that 5 is the number of grace but why exactly is that?


1. Father
2. Son
3. Spirit
4. Creation
5. Redemption

4 is the number of death in Japan IIRC.
4+1=5
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1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: Trolls
« Reply #108 on: February 19, 2009, 09:00:57 PM »
  Amen! Cardinal

  Molly thanks for that scripture!!!

  I also think of the famine in the land at that time...

  and how there has been such a famine for hearing the

  Word of the Lord on the earth....and how all

  were fed by Joseph of His Father's household.

 and there is bread in abundance..enough for all and plenty

 left over.



   Bread of life,Words of LIFE  

           BREAD FROM HEAVEN

   Pharoahs people had to sell theirselves into slavery in Egypt

  for bread[to sustain life]

  NOT SO OF ISRAEL OF GOD

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Re: Trolls
« Reply #109 on: February 19, 2009, 09:04:40 PM »
 :cloud9: AMEN you two..... :thumbsup:
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Re: Trolls
« Reply #110 on: February 19, 2009, 09:06:42 PM »
Joseph will not accept them until they bring Benjamin to him.



14And he fell upon his brother Benjamin's neck, and wept; and Benjamin wept upon his neck.

--Gen 44

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Re: Trolls
« Reply #111 on: February 19, 2009, 09:12:11 PM »
O.K. Taffy, I see you are not going to budge on this matter that I requested Brian's post be deleted. Why would I ask to have mine deleted when mine was the truth?

And that begs the question Taffy,
You being a moderator, and you having read what I posted (seeing as how you already told me what it was about), why didn't you delete it? Obviously it wasn't as bad as it was made to be.

And this still evades the issue, Taffy. It puts the focus back on me where it really is about me being alowed to post on these boards without fear of being character assassinated.

Now can we finally get this behind us and get on with life?
Tis nothing about budging....tis about basic facts bro..tis quite simple really :icon_flower:

where on earth did ya get yours being truth from..cos if it was seen that way bro..it would have been left, which says to me it wasnt ...again IT was removed cause it was deemed bearing little fruit...or one could say just darn right offensive..in that what you accuse others of ....


MM..Im in Britain Bud ..sorta different TIME zone....Didnt even see it to read or analize it..twas been over seen by others at the time..or flicky fingers here would have, you know how quick I am on the draw... :happygrin:

It evades Nothing to the point of what we are discussing this very moment about your claim....of having posts removed .

How about we meet each other half way?....WE ALL GET on with Life and leave this whole issue alone like I suggested yesterday.. :icon_flower:

Shall we.??????.balls in your court bro, yet again ... :icon_flower:

what say you? :icon_flower:
Isa 29:18 And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness.

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Re: Trolls
« Reply #112 on: February 19, 2009, 09:30:50 PM »
I don't know exactly why 5 is the number of grace . . .but I do know that in applying that principle to things in Scripture pertaining to the number . . .it really speaks volumes to the unfolding message lying beneath.  Four, for me, is not of death . . it is of natural manifestations . . .that derives from four corners . .for directions, four elements (earth, wind, fire, and water)  Numerology has always fascinated me and bewildered me at the same time.  If ya keep it simple, I can relate . .but it does tend to get pretty complex at times.

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Re: Trolls
« Reply #113 on: February 19, 2009, 09:34:34 PM »
 :cloud9: I witness with the 4's too; but in a sense carnality IS death, so you can see where they might have gotten that. Blessings....
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Re: Trolls
« Reply #114 on: February 19, 2009, 09:50:29 PM »


  Hi Nathan,

    I don't know much about numerology.Maybe you can help me

    with something?

   One night..I was shown a number...but don't know what it

   means


             3 0 8 then the 8 turned into a 9 before my eyes.

         Does that make any sense to you?


                           Sheila

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Re: Trolls
« Reply #115 on: February 19, 2009, 10:06:18 PM »
Interesting you see it change from 8 (new beginnings) to 9  . . .there are nine gifts, nine characteristics of the fruit of the Spirit (not fruits) and it was the ninth hour when Jesus died on the cross . . .the gift of salvation completed.

Three is divine completion and resurrection . .thirty is the age of ministry . . .thirty pieces of silver paid for the completion of salvation to be manifested . . .

Nuts . .gotta go back to work . .sorry this isn't very complete.

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Re: Trolls
« Reply #116 on: February 19, 2009, 11:24:30 PM »
A troll in time saves 9.
Just because God says He will save all mankind
does not necessarily mean He won't.

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Re: Trolls
« Reply #117 on: February 19, 2009, 11:36:20 PM »


Nine-trolls of wisdom consists in being wise in time.


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Re: Trolls
« Reply #118 on: February 19, 2009, 11:45:16 PM »


   LOL!!!


        YOU GUYS ARE TWO FUNNY!! :icon_joker: :icon_jokercolor:

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Re: Trolls
« Reply #119 on: February 20, 2009, 01:38:40 AM »


Nine-trolls of wisdom consists in being wise in time.



On the first day of Christmas my true love gave to me one happy troll.
Just because God says He will save all mankind
does not necessarily mean He won't.

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Re: Trolls
« Reply #120 on: February 20, 2009, 01:50:56 AM »


Life is like a box of trolls, never know what your gonna get.

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Re: Trolls
« Reply #121 on: February 20, 2009, 01:52:54 AM »


Nine-trolls of wisdom consists in being wise in time.



On the first day of Christmas my true love gave to me one happy troll.


On the second day of Christmas my true love gave to me  Twoooo Tuuurtle Troolls


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Re: Trolls
« Reply #122 on: February 20, 2009, 02:06:27 AM »
le troisième jour de Noël, mon véritable amour m'a donné, trois Français trolls

On the third day of Christmas, my true love gave to me, three French trolls.
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Re: Trolls
« Reply #123 on: February 20, 2009, 02:12:02 AM »
 :cloud9: Wow Tony.....I'd like to borrow your French ability for about an hour. I've been trying to translate some French archive material. Unfortunately, my dad was the first generation not to know our native tongue..... :sigh:
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Re: Trolls
« Reply #124 on: February 20, 2009, 02:37:13 AM »
Cardinal, I'm been to France but don't know that much French.

I used Google translater:

http://www.google.com/ig?hl=en&referrer=ign_n&refresh=1#max5

There are also translate things you can put on a web page that the visitor can choose what language they want to read it in. Can't remember the name of it but I used to have it on my web site.
Just because God says He will save all mankind
does not necessarily mean He won't.