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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #425 on: September 29, 2012, 04:15:52 PM »
Wow, What a beautiful expression of the glory of the gospel and our part in it.

  But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy,  made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions—it is by grace you have been saved.  And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus,  in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus. Eph 2:4-7

I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.  (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection.  Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years. Rv 20:4-6

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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #426 on: September 30, 2012, 02:27:11 PM »
A RANSOM FOR ALL – E.T. SPRINGETT MOXHAM

"We scan the dark ages of man and note how in the most pitiful ignorance, men, women, and children have died without the light of love – bitter, belaboured and bereft of hope. All this and worse if the theories of men who limit the Gospel of Christ are right!

But why limit God? Why limit His power? Why indeed limit His plan and purposes for the ages of time? Why take part of His plan and label it as the whole? Why limit the great God of love at all, He Who is infinite love? Why indeed limit the compassion and overflowing love of Jesus 'who gave Himself a ransom for all'? (1Tim. 2:5,6). Are not the arms of Jesus long enough or strong enough to reach out and snatch the sinner from the jaws of suffering and death, if not in this dispensation, then in the ages to come? God 'will have all men to be saved and come into a knowledge of the truth' (Rom. 5:18). Never let it be said that any one of us limited God in any way." 62
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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #427 on: October 01, 2012, 02:52:35 PM »
THE AGES IN THE SCRIPTURES – VLADIMIR GELESNOFF

"Words are inadequate to describe the harm which has resulted from confounding the ages with eternity.

The Greek and Hebrew terms rendered 'forever and ever,' 'eternal,' 'everlasting' never refer to endlessness; but to a series of terminable periods know as age-times. These ages are periods in which God carries on remedial work, but they have a conclusion and pass away when the purpose to be accomplished in them has been realized. The ages are never synonymous with endlessness but always distinct therefrom.

That the words translated 'forever and ever' are associated with the hereafter of both believer and unbeliever is true; but in the case of both it is limited to the span of the ages, and has not the remotest reference to the final state of either. Therefore the dogmas of endless agony and endless sin rest on purely imaginary premises and are without the slightest shred of biblical support." 63
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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #428 on: October 04, 2012, 02:02:42 PM »
"HELL" – VLADIMIR GELESNOFF
This writing is a detailed explanation of why the author makes the following statement.

"The barbarous and heathen dogma of endless torment is refuted by the very passages on which orthodoxy depends for its support." 64
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1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #431 on: October 05, 2012, 02:00:34 PM »
Thanks for the links WhiteWings.   :thumbsup:

"ONE" AND "ALL" – JOHN ESSEX

" 'This is ideal and welcome in the sight of our Saviour, God, Who wills that all mankind be saved and come into a realization of the truth' (1Tim. 2:3). This passage shows us what is the driving force behind salvation, the will of God. It is God Who is the Saviour, not us, and it is His will that is the decisive factor that results in the saving of all.

Many believers will have some to be saved, some to be reconciled; God will have all to be saved, all to be reconciled. He will be All in all, not all in some. Many insist on the word 'some' because it makes human endeavour a part of salvation; they will not recognize that human endeavour is, of itself, vanity, and that all is of God. He, the One, does everything for the all, that in each He may display His grace. Let us not claim for ourselves the glory of our salvation, but give it wholly to Him." 65
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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #432 on: October 05, 2012, 02:34:58 PM »
Thanks for the links WhiteWings.   :thumbsup:
Do you still have all the links or want them Rodger?
I think I can find most if needed/wanted.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #433 on: October 05, 2012, 02:59:04 PM »
Yes, it would be good for me to have all the links in a document.
Thanks again WhiteWings.
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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #434 on: October 06, 2012, 02:28:58 PM »
ON THESE THINGS MEDITATE – WILLIAM MEALAND
(possibly the most eloquent of all the UR writers)

In summing up his book he wrote
"Christ has truly made peace 'through the blood of His cross.' But the clear potency of it is yet to be seen when the ministry of reconciliation has accomplished its beneficial purpose. Then, the salvation of all is at last a wondrous reality. The tendency we see in God's great stream of the eons has widened and enlarged until all are richly blessed by its satisfying power. Its noble volume, now freed of all obstacles, attains a majestic flow. And so, by seemingly strange and inexplicable ways, the God of all grace accomplishes His purpose. For 'Grace not in rills, but cataracts rolls.' How glorious the stream, and how salutary its miraculous power! Sin has affected all, all but One glorious, sinless Being, and He in marvelous grace triumphs completely over it.

There will not be a single creature, then, above or below, who is not 'lost in wonder, love and praise.' A scene truly to inspire, and continuously impel to grateful thanks. Transcendent grace indeed, in fullest flow." 66
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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #435 on: October 08, 2012, 02:57:17 PM »
"ETERNAL LIFE" – DR. LOYAL F. HURLEY

"Hebrew and Greek scholars know that there is no word in the Bible corresponding to our 'eternal,' which, as commonly used among us, means unending. Most theologians know this too, but they don't teach it. Only one who is willing to stand for TRUTH for truth's sake and is willing to be branded a fanatic would dare to challenge the translation 'eternal life.'

'Eternal life,' so called, pertains to relationship and quality. What men are urged to 'lay hold of' is 'eonian life' or 'real life' or 'true life.' It is not duration but quality. How tragic that truths like this are covered up by faulty translations!"

The only definition of 'eternal life' so-called, in the entire Bible is clearly stated in John 17:3, 'And this is life eternal (eonian), that they might know thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.' That describes relationship, not duration; it signifies quality, not quantity." 67
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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #436 on: October 08, 2012, 07:17:56 PM »
yet, we go to great lengths to establish that "aion" is a specific period of time with a beginning and an end, and that "aioian" is an adjective based on the root word. Then we reverse ourselves at a convenient point to say "aionian" strictly refers to quality not quantity. I believe this appears as a weak argument to any biblical scholar of the "opposition".

That is why I advocate returning, beyond the Greek, into the Hebrew, "olam", because I think the Greeks caused most of our translational problems in the first place with their high minded worship of their own language and disregard for the Hebrew meanings of words.

Olam should be the foundational word for establishing what Jesus was saying about "zoe" life, which transcends time. :o)

zoe olam
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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #437 on: October 09, 2012, 01:57:00 PM »
Thanks for sharing your point of view eaglesway.

TORTURING DOUBTS AND EXULTANT FAITH – JAMES CORAM

"After long years of torturing doubts, God had mercy on me and turned my darkness into light, my despair into joy and my misery into exultation. He brought me into touch with His revelation, just as He had written it, apart from most of the mistranslations of well-meaning men, who were bound by creeds and tradition.

I found out that sin and suffering are confined to the eons or ages, as 'forever' and 'everlasting' should be translated. There will indeed be an awful judgment, but it will not merely punish, but set right all wrongs.

Not only will God bring all of earth's inhabitants back into the sunlight of His love, but, through the blood of Christ's cross, He will reconcile all to Him, whether those on the earth, or those in the heavens (Col. 1:20). The present enmity toward God on the part of terrestrial and celestial creatures will, in due time, be used as a background to display His love. That is why I no longer have torturing doubts, but revel in exultant faith." 68
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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #438 on: October 10, 2012, 01:37:58 PM »
THE GLORY OF THE HAPPY GOD – ARTHUR CHARLES LAMB

"We read in 1Tim. 1:11 that Paul was entrusted with the evangel of the glory of the happy God. We read in 1Tim. 2:4 that God wills that all mankind be saved and come into a knowledge of the truth, and that Christ Jesus gave Himself a correspondent ransom for all (2:6).

Our God is a happy God. In Ephesians 1:10,11 we learn of the secret of God's will, and this accords with His delight. It gives God joy and happiness and delight to purpose and bring about 'an administration of the complement of the eras, to head up all in the Christ.'
Such an evangel is certainly for the laud of His glory." 69
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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #439 on: October 11, 2012, 02:04:35 PM »
THE CONCEPT OF CIRCULARITY – JACK E. JACOBSEN

"Coming to the close of the last age, we find the earth filled with God's righteousness. All know Him from the least to the greatest. The earth is filled with the knowledge of the Lord as the waters cover the sea. Through His own blood, Christ has reconciled all back to God. We see every tongue confessing in love and adoration Christ as Lord. This can only be done in obedience and love as it is a unanimous Praise of the Universe to the glory of God the Father (Colossians 1:20).

It is little wonder that all gladly proclaim redemption's story. God now rises in everyone, bringing the consummation of God's plan of the ages – a complete circle, from God in Himself to GOD ALL IN ALL." 70
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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #440 on: October 12, 2012, 02:44:04 PM »
GOD'S PERFECT PLAN – AUTHOR UNKNOWN

"Many attempts have been made to prove that eons are eternal. The Greek word aion and the Hebrew olam, both meaning age or eon, have been translated by terms meaning endlessness. This is a grave error, for the divine Author, Himself has not used them in this way. He has indicated that they were not eternal in the past by informing us that they had a beginning (1Cor. 2:7), and, again, that they cannot possibly be everlasting in the future, for they are to end (Heb. 9:26; 1Cor. 10:11).

God's plan for creation is confined to time. It is not an 'eternal' purpose' but a 'purpose of the eons' (Eph. 3:11). Beyond the ages there will be naught but bliss and perfection for every member of creation (Rom. 8:19-22). Sin and evil and death will then be past; all will be saved and reconciled, and God shall be All, not in a few, but in all (1Cor. 15:28)." 71
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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #441 on: October 13, 2012, 03:16:51 PM »
#72 - A snippet from GOD'S METHODS WITH MAN – G. Campbell Morgan (pages 185-186)

"Let me say to Bible students that we must be very careful how we use the word 'eternity.' We have fallen into great error in our constant use of that word. There is no word in the whole book of God corresponding with our 'eternal,' which, as commonly used among us, means absolutely without end. Men have divided the church, separated from each other, and persecuted one another, upon a though conveyed by an English word which has no equivalent in the Bible."
G. Campbell Morgan

In response to that statement, the SCRIPTURE STUDIES CONCERN editor (unnamed) wrote in 1956
"We cannot conceive of a Creator Who knows the end from the beginning, One Who is Love, Who has infinite wisdom, and infinite power, giving to any being life, life which is never to end, but to continue in suffering to all eternity. The Bible does not teach it anywhere in the original languages. God's punishments are remedial and take place within the span of the ages. Punishment will last no longer than is necessary to bring man to hate his sin and be reconciled to his Saviour."
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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #442 on: October 14, 2012, 02:42:45 PM »
NOTES FROM ROMANS 5 – W.H. GRIFFITH THOMAS

"In Romans 5:18,19 we have on the one side as the cause one lapse and the effects extending to all mankind for condemnation. We have on the other side one just sentence of acquittal, and the effect extending to all mankind for a justifying that carries with it LIFE.
Since 'the many' were involved in sin and death through the agency of one man, Adam, 'much more' may we believe that 'the many' will be involved in righteousness and life through the agency of the One Man, Christ Jesus."

EDITOR'S NOTE:
Some ask, Why does it say "the many" instead of "all" in Roman 5:19?

This is because the one disobedient man (Adam), and the One righteous Man (Christ) are put in a class by themselves. They are in contrast with "the many."

We may put it as follows:
The one disobedient man plus "the many" equals all mankind made sinners.
The One obedient Man plus "the many" equals all mankind made righteous.

That "the one" plus "the many" made sinners includes all mankind no one will deny.

Even so, "the One" plus "the many" made righteous is all-inclusive and guarantees the salvation of all mankind. 73
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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #443 on: October 15, 2012, 07:40:44 AM »
Awesome for sure.
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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #444 on: October 15, 2012, 09:22:55 AM »
Awesome for sure.

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AGES OR ETERNITY AND THE KING JAMES VERSION – JOHN DOKAS

"By examining the texts of the Greek manuscripts we find the word AIONIOS or AGE LASTING in place of the word eternal of the King James version. AIONIOS the adjective modifies its noun AION or AGE and means lasting during the AGE, or AGE-LASTING.

For that meticulous student of the Word of God that was penned by the inspired writers, I am including this concordance of the Greek noun AION and its adjective AIONIOS for your reference in your studies of the mistranslations of the King James version versus the text of the Greek manuscripts." 74
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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #445 on: October 15, 2012, 03:24:09 PM »
THE PLAN OF REDEMPTION SEEN FROM GOD'S VIEWPOINT – DORA VAN ASSEN

"Many do not understand the extent and purpose of God, that He is the propitiation for our sins, AND NOT OURS ONLY, but ALSO for the sins of the whole world (1John 4:10).
God is calling us to come up higher into Him and begin to see from His eyes, from His position.

God never loses! HE WINS ALL! He said, 'Pick up the fragments, let NOTHING be lost.
This is seen from His side of the picture. We do not have a tired and frustrated God unable or unwilling to save His own creation. He will vindicate His own character and nature of love and power. Praise His Name!" 75
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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #446 on: October 15, 2012, 08:29:53 PM »
Pore God. First He made the angels, then the angels rebelled. Then He made the man and the woman, and they rebelled because and angel tricked them. The He chose a nation from one man(Abraham) and gave them the Law so they could enjoy happy prosperity, but they would not receive it. Then He sent the prophets to warn them about the cliff they were running off of, and to win their hearts back into justice, mercy and love- and they KILLED THEM! Then, as a final drastic measure He sent His son, to teach them about love and to heal them and forgive them and to provide them with His Spirit- BUT SO FEW WANTED IT1

Pore God, Now mostly all the people He ever created (plus a third of the angels)are going to burn forever, or be totally annihilated out of existence, and His hands are tied because big as He is, He made man's free will BIGGER than His because for some reason(His ways are higher than ours, don't tire yourself out trying to understand it, just accept it) He will feel fulfilled with a FINAL PICTURE within which MOST OF HIS CREATED BEINGS ARE BURNING FOREVER OR FOREVER BURNT!

Who can call this "good news"?
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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #447 on: October 16, 2012, 11:01:56 AM »
DIVINE JUDGMENT - DORA VAN ASSEN

"All of God's judgments are corrective measures that counteract, and also cooperate for the eventual good and reconciliation of all through Jesus Christ the Saviour of the world.

God never judges in vengeance for vengeance sake, but only for ultimate rehabilitation. He has His perfect timing to bring forth ultimate good for all. Thus many divine judgments are postponed until iniquity comes to the full (Gen. 15:16).

All must experience human failure and total depravity to the full in order to appreciate salvation when God eventually sets all things right throughout the whole universe (Isa. 9:26; and Phil. 2:10,11). 76
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« Reply #448 on: October 17, 2012, 02:30:52 PM »
GOD'S UNFAILING PLAN REVEALED IN THE EONS – DORA VAN ASSEN

 "The whole universe will feel the impact and glory of the cross as it takes away the sin of the world. This expression of God's influence, power, and love will continue to shine out of His own heart until all come under His sway; saved, purified, changed, and drawn back into Himself.

None can escape the loving and corrective judgment of the Father. Nothing shall be lost or wasted. The true light is shining more and more unto that perfect day when all shall be understood – God reaching His own ultimate plan, the great cycle of love completed; God All in all, everything in everybody. This is true love in the full expression of the cross." 77
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« Reply #449 on: October 17, 2012, 02:57:09 PM »


Thank you for sharing your SNIPPETS... always so edifying, comforting, faith-building...

I particularly appreciated the reminder "...the great cycle of love completed;..." I often reflect on the Lord's prayer (John's gospel--chapter 17)... it seems to me that our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ was indeed praying that the great cycle of love be completed (verses 21-26 especially)