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Re: I had a little debate with an ET believer
« Reply #50 on: November 27, 2014, 10:35:37 AM »
the all.

For from Him and through Him and to Him are all things.

The gathering together into one of all things in Christ, whether things in heaven or on earth.

For so it pleased the Father to make all the fulness dwell in Him and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself by the blood of His cross, whether things in heaven or things on earth.


God will be all in all.


Simple math repeated over and over. All is all. Duh.
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Re: I had a little debate with an ET believer
« Reply #51 on: November 27, 2014, 05:41:45 PM »
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Re: I had a little debate with an ET believer
« Reply #52 on: November 27, 2014, 06:54:51 PM »
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Re: I had a little debate with an ET believer
« Reply #53 on: November 27, 2014, 07:01:01 PM »
So you saying all as in all? :laugh: :dsunny:
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Re: I had a little debate with an ET believer
« Reply #54 on: November 27, 2014, 07:35:49 PM »
All as in100%.That's good math.

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Re: I had a little debate with an ET believer
« Reply #55 on: November 27, 2014, 07:40:53 PM »
Yeah, but isn't that just some of all as in all of some or really all of all like maybe only some of all are dying in Adam so only some of all will be made alive in Christ or are all of all really dying in Adam and will all of all really be made alive in Christ? I guess so because that's what scripture says, right?

"For even as, in Adam, all are dying, thus also, in Christ, shall all be vivified. (1 Corinthians 15:22)

Orthodoxy is all about exclusion of those not judged worthy by man to be in the private club because they don't practice the tradition of the modern Pharisees, but the truth of scripture is inclusive of all of creation.

"Through Him to reconcile all to Him (making peace through the blood of His cross), through Him, whether those on the earth or those in the heavens." (Colossians 1:20)

"Yet now Christ has been roused from among the dead, the Firstfruit of those who are reposing. For since, in fact, through a man came death, through a Man, also, comes the resurrection of the dead. For even as, in Adam, all are dying, thus also, in Christ, shall all be vivified. Yet each in his own class: the Firstfruit, Christ; thereupon those who are Christ's in His presence; thereafter the consummation, whenever He may be giving up the kingdom to His God and Father, whenever He should be nullifying all sovereignty and all authority and power. For He must be reigning until He should be placing all His enemies under His feet. The last enemy is being abolished: death. For He subjects all under His feet. Now whenever He may be saying that all is subject, it is evident that it is outside of Him Who subjects all to Him. Now, whenever all may be subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also shall be subjected to Him Who subjects all to Him, that God may be All in all." (1 Corinthians 15:20-28)

...not all in some who think they've chosen to be saved by their own free will, but "all in all" because it is the will of the Father.

"our Saviour, God, Who wills that all mankind be saved and come into a realization of the truth. For there is one God, and one Mediator of God and mankind, a Man, Christ Jesus, Who is giving Himself a correspondent Ransom for all" (1 Timothy 2:3-6)

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Re: I had a little debate with an ET believer
« Reply #56 on: November 27, 2014, 08:57:53 PM »
I have offered more arguments thanks to your posts , than you all for contributing!

Another believer joined, one who is undecided and who said he wanted to sincerely love Jesus, not out of fear. I think all of us can identify with that. I hope our arguments have been helpful and that he and others were encouraged to read more about UR.  :Peace2:



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