I agree with Rose and Seth that all who believe in universal reconciliation don't necessarily agree on everything else and shouldn't be considered as authorities on anything else. I think the word of God is the authority. If anything anybody says doesn't conform to an accurate translation of scripture, it's bogus information, maybe not necessarily provided with the intent to deceive, but incorrect information provided by somebody who is misinformed which I think most of us here have been at one time or another. The problem is, and this is why those of us who agree on universal reconciliation don't necessarily agree on some other things, everybody has their own perspective according to their own interpretation of scripture. We all need to try to be humble while sharing our various perspectives in the spirit of love and try not to let our pride get in the way of the truth ultimately being revealed. That's why scripture says knowledge puffs up. I think it's good to learn something from other folks. I think that's the benefit of this forum. We get to share information with each other. Nobody except God knows everything. And, at this point in my life, I have to relearn some stuff because my old mind is fading folks. But like I tell my 90 year old dad who is struggling with dementia, don't worry because we'll help each other. That's why I think we not only need to be humble about any knowledge we do retain but keep a good sense of humor about what we've lost. I'm burned out from long years of working the swing shift and much partying, but I'm in better shape since I retired and decided to stay sober. I'm not in very good shape today though because I didn't get much sleep last night. So, if I say something a little crazier than usual, that's why.