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Offline gregoryfl

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Hidden in the mitzvah
« on: September 19, 2014, 01:30:58 AM »
If you hit one of your slaves and cause the loss of an eye, the slave must be set free. The same law applies if you knock out a slave's tooth--the slave goes free.
(Exo 21:26-27)

Where is the thematic connection showing this to be hinting at the reconciliation of all of God's enemies? Hint...David wrote of it.

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Re: Hidden in the mitzvah
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2014, 02:15:03 AM »

  I sure can be wrong but went to looking   Ronen   
 Psalm 18
English Standard Version

The LORD Is My Rock and My Fortress

To the choirmaster. A Psalm of David, the servant of the LORD, who addressed the words of this song to the LORD on the day when the LORD rescued him from the hand of all his enemies, and from the hand of Saul. He said:

1I love you, O LORD, my strength.
2The LORD is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer,
my God, my rock, in whom I take refuge,
my shield, and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold.
3I call upon the LORD, who is worthy to be praised,
and I am saved from my enemies.

4The cords of death encompassed me;
the torrents of destruction assailed me;a
5the cords of Sheol entangled me;
the snares of death confronted me.

6In my distress I called upon the LORD;
to my God I cried for help.
From his temple he heard my voice,
and my cry to him reached his ears.

7Then the earth reeled and rocked;
the foundations also of the mountains trembled
and quaked, because he was angry.
8Smoke went up from his nostrils,b
and devouring fire from his mouth;
glowing coals flamed forth from him.
9He bowed the heavens and came down;
thick darkness was under his feet.
10He rode on a cherub and flew;
he came swiftly on the wings of the wind.
11He made darkness his covering, his canopy around him,
thick clouds dark with water.
12Out of the brightness before him
hailstones and coals of fire broke through his clouds.

13The LORD also thundered in the heavens,
and the Most High uttered his voice,
hailstones and coals of fire.
14And he sent out his arrows and scattered them;
he flashed forth lightnings and routed them.
15Then the channels of the sea were seen,
and the foundations of the world were laid bare
at your rebuke, O LORD,
at the blast of the breath of your nostrils.

16He sent from on high, he took me;
he drew me out of many waters.
17He rescued me from my strong enemy
and from those who hated me,
for they were too mighty for me.
18They confronted me in the day of my calamity,
but the LORD was my support.
19He brought me out into a broad place;
he rescued me, because he delighted in me.

20The LORD dealt with me according to my righteousness;
according to the cleanness of my hands he rewarded me.
21For I have kept the ways of the LORD,
and have not wickedly departed from my God.
22For all his rulesc were before me,
and his statutes I did not put away from me.
23I was blameless before him,
and I kept myself from my guilt.
24So the LORD has rewarded me according to my righteousness,
according to the cleanness of my hands in his sight.

25With the merciful you show yourself merciful;
with the blameless man you show yourself blameless;
26with the purified you show yourself pure;
and with the crooked you make yourself seem tortuous.
27For you save a humble people,
but the haughty eyes you bring down.
28For it is you who light my lamp;
the LORD my God lightens my darkness.
29For by you I can run against a troop,
and by my God I can leap over a wall.
30This God—his way is perfect;d
the word of the LORD proves true;
he is a shield for all those who take refuge in him.

31For who is God, but the LORD?
And who is a rock, except our God?—
32the God who equipped me with strength
and made my way blameless.
33He made my feet like the feet of a deer
and set me secure on the heights.
34He trains my hands for war,
so that my arms can bend a bow of bronze.
35You have given me the shield of your salvation,
and your right hand supported me,
and your gentleness made me great.
36You gave a wide place for my steps under me,
and my feet did not slip.
37I pursued my enemies and overtook them,
and did not turn back till they were consumed.
38I thrust them through, so that they were not able to rise;
they fell under my feet.
39For you equipped me with strength for the battle;
you made those who rise against me sink under me.
40You made my enemies turn their backs to me,e
and those who hated me I destroyed.
41They cried for help, but there was none to save;
they cried to the LORD, but he did not answer them.
42I beat them fine as dust before the wind;
I cast them out like the mire of the streets.

43You delivered me from strife with the people;
you made me the head of the nations;
people whom I had not known served me.
44As soon as they heard of me they obeyed me;
foreigners came cringing to me.
45Foreigners lost heart
and came trembling out of their fortresses.

46The LORD lives, and blessed be my rock,
and exalted be the God of my salvation—
47the God who gave me vengeance
and subdued peoples under me,
48who delivered me from my enemies;
yes, you exalted me above those who rose against me;
you rescued me from the man of violence.

49For this I will praise you, O LORD, among the nations,
and sing to your name.
50Great salvation he brings to his king,
and shows steadfast love to his anointed,
to David and his offspring forever.

I may not understand properly  :dunno2:

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Re: Hidden in the mitzvah
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2014, 02:46:02 AM »
What an awesome psalm. Just wow.

I tend to view "enemies" and "slavemaster" from the perspective of sin, i.e. conquering the enemies in the land etc. and how what you serve is your master, whether sin or righteousness. For we wrestle not with flesh and blood...

Offline gregoryfl

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Re: Hidden in the mitzvah
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2014, 04:16:59 AM »
Shalom Rose,

Thanks for sharing that. I think you see in it the slave David being set free from his enemies, is that correct?

The connection I had in mind is a very little known request of God made by David in the Psalms. It is the only place in the Scripture where God is asked to knock out teeth, which God inspired David to write:
Break their teeth, God, in their mouth. Break out the great teeth of the young lions, Yahweh.
(Psa 58:6)

I believe there is a connection here, hidden in David's indignation toward the wicked, that speaks of their ultimate freedom. This would be similar to the mitzvah in Torah of someone digging a pit and letting someone fall into it. The digger of the pit would still be responsible even though they did not push the person into the pit. This too provides a hidden lesson in Torah concerning God, who dug a pit (placed a tree of knowledge of good and evil in the middle of the garden with the tree of life) of which a serpent (the most subtle of his creations) would entice Eve to eat from, and Adam to follow. God was not to blame, but was responsible (as he set out the cookie jar so to speak) and thus looked upon for the remedy to the damages caused.

There are many such hidden hints which make torah study truly a treasure.


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Re: Hidden in the mitzvah
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2014, 02:38:04 PM »
Ronen, that is awesome. Please keep sharing the treasures that Father reveals to you!
From Him and through Him and to Him are all things.

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Re: Hidden in the mitzvah
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2014, 05:11:33 PM »

  Thanks so much Ronen   for that treasure of truth   :thumbsup:
 I was searching the Psalms like crazy lol    to compare the      eye and tooth to a set free slave      :footmouth:   
 lormarh you are right !!     keep them coming brother    , they can be a benefit to us all   :HeartThrob:
 Even Seth comment  helps   us all to  a view    we may not ever see in the Lords ways   
 I use the word allowed  As Gods Wisdom      is  profoundly changing us all       and about those trees        lol     and  let  this be a lesson to you     children !!
 Yes David was  a beloved  one    a man after Gods own heart     , but suffered in ways    while in the earthly   realm     and it  allowed him to know  his   own soul/life  was  always needing Gods      help and approval   , for me  David acknowledged    God in all his steps      and that is trusting  Him to the ends of the world
Gods  Blessings to    you and all today

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Re: Hidden in the mitzvah
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2014, 05:59:05 PM »
 :thumbsup: Ronen..I had noticed that with the law regarding a bull that gores..and related that to 'the beast' and our Father's
  keeping the law in the spirit of love for us. when being led of the Holy spirit I had two wittness visit me in the night,and tell

  me...but Sheila,man is not responsible for sin.....I had been grieving about the coming judgement of God on the earth.

we being responisible for's all our fault..etc  my reply to them was 'what? you mean it's not all our fault?"

 This was

  the beginning of me learning about the judgement of God to deliver the whole creation from the bondage of corruption into

 the glorious freedom. the beginning of me learning of the righteous judgement oof God[not man's in-part,confused judgement

of error.]

   knowing that He made 'arrangements' to protect /preserve our lives before this exercize in good/evil" ever began..and that He is

 very conscientous in His nature of love..and has limited any permanat damge to our lives in the eternal realm..though temporarily

  we both see and suffer from evil/corruption... Father's  ability to make it work out for our own eternal good....and write in our

hearts and minds..the surpassing excellence of His a lesson well learned and,establishes in righteousness.

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Re: Hidden in the mitzvah
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2014, 07:29:24 PM »
 :thumbsup: Working things out for our eternal good. That's what I have to keep at the forefront of my mind or else I find it easy to despair. He has me praising Him for the (future) destruction of sin and death quite frequently nowadays so that I won't be tempted to give up. I am SO looking forward to that day!
From Him and through Him and to Him are all things.

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Re: Hidden in the mitzvah
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2014, 08:41:07 PM »
When I read and meditate on Psalm 18, I see that David is writing about his love and reliance on God:

i.e. Ps 18: 1-3  I feel deep passion for You, O Yahweh, my Steadfastness, 2 O Yahweh, my Crag and my Fastness and my Deliverance! My El, my Rock! I take refuge in Him, My Shield and the Horn of my salvation, my Impregnable Retreat!" 3 The One being praised! I call on Yahweh, And I am being saved from my enemies." (CLV)

But there is so much more. Then I also see that it is God who is describing what He is doing:

i.e. Referring to Christ's earthly experience

Ps 18: 4-6  The cables of death have enveloped me, And the torrents of decadence, they frighten me." 5 The cables of the unseen, they surrounded me; The traps of death have confronted me." 6 In my distress I called on Yahweh, And to my Elohim I implored. From His temple He heard my voice, And my imploring before Him, it came to His ears. (CLV)

i.e. The love and righteous judgment of God.

Ps 18: 25-27  With the benign one You show Yourself benign, And with a flawless master You show Yourself flawless;" 26 With the purified one You show Yourself pure, But with the perverse one You show Yourself cunning." 27 For You Yourself shall save the humbled people, But You shall abase those whose eyes are exalted.. (CLV)

etc., etc., etc.

Concerning the book of Psalms, IMO, it reveals the plan of God, the salvation of all through the eons, coming to us from God through the writings of David and the other writers of this fantastic book.

Joe from Ottawa

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Re: Hidden in the mitzvah
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2014, 09:32:26 PM »


Nice Joe !!  I picked the wrong Psalm  , it was 81  too that was a contender  :laughing7:
 But Ronen   said it  was

Psalm 58 Common English Bible (CEB)

Psalm 58
For the music leader. Do not destroy. A psalm of David, a miktam.[a]

58 Do you really speak what is right, you gods?
    Do you really judge humans fairly?
2 No: in your hearts you plan injustice;
    your hands do violence on the earth.
3 The wicked backslide from the womb;
    liars go astray from birth.
4 Their venom is like a snake's venom—
    like a deaf cobra's—one that shuts its ears
5         so it can't hear the snake charmer's voice
        or the spells of a skillful enchanter.
6 God, break their teeth out of their mouths!
    Tear out the lions' jawbones, Lord!

7 Let them dissolve like water flowing away.
    When they bend the bow,
    let their arrows be like headless shafts.
8 Like the snail that dissolves into slime,
    like a woman's stillborn child,
    let them never see the sun.
9 Before your pots feel the thorns,
    whether green or burned up,
    God will sweep them away!
10 But the righteous will rejoice when they see vengeance done,
    when they wash their feet in the blood of the wicked.
11 Then it will be said:
"Yes, there is a reward for the righteous!
    Yes, there is a God who judges people on the earth."
  So here it is in its entirety     and in CEB    , just what was on the Biblegateway