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rodgertutt:
THE GOSPEL – BERT BAUMAN

"Our popular English Bible carries the name of an earthly monarch and so bears mute testimony to the influence the English King had over the translators. His directive to 'do nothing that will disturb the tranquility of the church', appears to have been taken very seriously by the translators since they often chose to interpret certain Greek words to support then current church doctrine, rather than render a faithful and consistent translation of the original.

I must confess to the admiration I feel for the absolute brilliance of Satan's cunning and strategy. He has effectively polluted the entire fountain of truth from which Christians drink by causing confusion in the meaning of the single word aion, and its adjective aionios. It does not seem that this single word could be so important as to produce calamitous results, but it is just here that we see the utter genius of our adversary. Perhaps no other word, erroneously translated, could cause such widespread confusion and distortion of the truth. Practically all Christian doctrine is affected: the purposes of God, the nature of God, judgment, man's destiny, and salvation – to say nothing of its effect upon our concept of the very God we worship and the way we treat one another as Christians, and the world at large."

EDITOR'S ADDITION
AIÓN -- AIÓNIOS
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/Aion_lim.html

BERT BAUMAN continues, "The doctrine of eternal torment is not found in the Scripture but the teaching of judgment certainly is. But why judgment? Is it a matter of God's vengeance only? The scriptures suggest that God's judgments are desirable but not necessarily enjoyable. It is never pleasant to be judged, but the fruit of judgment is desirable. Correction produces righteousness which yields the fruit of the Spirit. Therefore, while the chastening is unpleasant, the results are a blessing. Out of love for His creatures, God chastens, and corrects. He judges His creatures for their own good.

Did not Jesus teach us to love and do good even to our enemies? And while He admonishes us to be perfect even as our heavenly Father, would our Father be less than we are expected to be? Can love pour out vengeance for its own gratification, or judge to satisfy its own sense of justice? The result of God's judgments must ultimately be profitable and beneficial to the one being punished, 'for the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them' (Luke 9:56)."
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reFORMer:
Anybody know how to contact Bert Bauman?  Is he still alive?  The last I knew he was with New Day Fellowship in St. Paul, MN, if memory serves me.  I knew him and met with a church group he was Pastor of prior to New Day.  I would love to have a good catch up conversation with him.  I wonder what all he wrote over the years...

rodgertutt:

--- Quote from: reFORMer on December 10, 2012, 09:37:01 AM ---Anybody know how to contact Bert Bauman?  Is he still alive?  The last I knew he was with New Day Fellowship in St. Paul, MN, if memory serves me.  I knew him and met with a church group he was Pastor of prior to New Day.  I would love to have a good catch up conversation with him.  I wonder what all he wrote over the years...
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ReFORMer

The address in Bert Bauman's book THE GOSPEL is
REDEMPTION HAUS
218 Central Avenue
Osseo, Minnesota, 55369

They might know how to contact him.

rodgertutt:
WHAT GOD SAYS CONCERNING HELL – J.F. RODGERS

"May some poor soul whose loved one has died without receiving Christ as their Saviour, find a measure of relief in the assurance that they are neither now, nor ever shall be, tortured endlessly and consciously in an inferno of fire wrongly described as the eternal abode of the dammed. Instead, they will be deprived of life until the lake of fire which is the second death no longer exists."
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ded2daworld:
That is a great quote Rodger. The only thing I see wrong is that in a short quote, one cannot prove a doctrinal position. People that are concerned about their loved ones eternity may start searching the scriptures however because of it and eventually see the truth and get the relief they seek. The good news for all mankind is really good news for ALL mankind.

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