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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #350 on: July 21, 2012, 02:18:31 PM »
#17 - RAY PRINZING COMBO (worth repeating)

A SNIPPET FROM REDEMPTION ALL IN ALL - RAY PRINZING (my earthly hero and mentor)

"Aionian punishment means of the age, or age during. It is a period of time designated by God for the bringing to naught that which is wrong. God will mete out exactly the amount of time necessary for correction, but it will not be prolonged beyond that which is needed. All of God's punishments are corrective in nature, motivated by His love, and used to work into our good and His praise."

THE MAGNITUDE OF REDEMPTION RAY PRINZING

" 'And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be THE SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD." 1John 4:14.
'Who will have ALL MEN to be saved, and to come into a knowledge of the truth' 1Tim. 2:4.

This is not a pitting of man's will against the will of God as some try to teach, with man's will able to resist and hold out until God cannot change him, but must throw him into some eternal cesspool to be tormented. NAY for we read that 'He is working out all things after the counsel of His own will,' and man cannot disannul that which HE has willed. It is God's will that all shall come to Christ. He is the propitiation for the sins of the WHOLE WORLD. Why then shall we be so foolish as to dispute the immutability of His truth?"

THE INTERPLAY OF GOOD AND EVIL RAY PRINZING

"God is sovereign, and He controls all the interaction of evil and good, and causes all to redound to His own glory. It is not what was lost by the fall was to be regained by redemption, BUT by the interaction of FALL AND REDEMPTION, God achieves greater, wiser, nobler, and higher goals than by the Adamic race remaining in its pristine state.

Evil and good are synchronized to accomplish God's will and purpose, so that the ultimate goal shall reveal all evil transformed back into good, and all negation cancelled out by GOOD. Evil is allowed for wise ends, and when these are secured it must cease to exist, for God will restore all things into good. HE controls all the interaction between evil and good until His purpose of the ages is fulfilled. Then shall God be All in all."

DIVINE INWORKINGS ALL IN ALL RAY PRINZING

"We would not minimize the judgments of God, but the more the spirit of revelation unfolds the truth, the more we see God's judgments in proper perspective, that they are remedial, corrective in their nature and used to bring forth a state of righteousness. They shall not be executed in unholy vengeance, for MERCY shall balance the score. God's judgments are ever tempered with mercy, and when they have fulfilled their purpose, the judgments end. Mercy will outlast all the judgments, and will rejoice in the ultimate restoration of all that was perverted, corrupt, and evil.

Mercy can operate on the basis of justice because Christ has gathered the whole into His own heart, and suffered to reconcile all to Himself."
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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #351 on: July 24, 2012, 04:08:25 PM »
#18 - The first-born and first-fruits are the "few" and "little flock;" but these, though first delivered from the curse, have a relation to the whole creation, which shall be saved in the appointed times by the first-born seed, that is by Christ and His body, through those appointed baptisms, whether of fire or water, which are required to bring about "the restitution of all things." St. Paul expressly declares this when he says, "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ, ... that in the dispensation of the fullness of times He might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven and which are in the earth, even in Him." - Rev. Andrew Jukes
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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #352 on: July 25, 2012, 01:33:44 AM »
I was introduced to the writings of Andrew Jukes in 1978. I am so grateul for it. He was a tremendous scholar and writer. It was his writing that started me of the path to understanding the restoration of all things. :o)
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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #353 on: July 25, 2012, 11:09:57 AM »
#19 By Walter Lanyon

"Thou openest thine hand, and satisfiest the desire of every living thing."
With this overshadowing comes the peace that passeth ALL. An osmosis - absorption - a blending; into the ONE takes place and there is no longer question and answer, problem and solution.

"Thou openest thine hand, and satisfiest the desire of every living thing" becomes a reality. There is no limitation - no questioning whether the desire is good, bad, or indifferent - for from this elevation the desire is the shape of the idea sent straight from the heart of God, and is made alive by the pulsating heartbeat of the universe.

"Thou openest thine hand, and satisfiest the desire of every living thing" yet are you desireless, free from wanting and ready to move into a place of substance, out of the place of things and yet in the midst of them all. You are suddenly One. There is no more you and your problem, there is only you. You pass easily through the crowd of beliefs.

The Light universal keeps shining. As it intensifies, it absorbs the shadows of human belief; nothing matters, yet, everything does. It transform the Temple-body into a tenuous substance, through which it can shine forth, - assuming any attribute of God at will. Healing is not, then, some wonder projected through human thought, but rather the enveloping of the Golden Shadow. It is a natural blending with LIFE which rules out the narrow confines of health and strength in humankind. I AM suddenly submerged in a sea of LIFE - eternal, golden, and all redolent with the LOVE of God.

For the first time, the mystical becomes the intensely practical - the only real thing you have ever known. Sight becomes a capacity to peer through the dense midnight of thought, by means of the Light which projects its Golden Shadow from the "Mind which was also in Christ Jesus" and which you realize is the mind that is also in you.

No longer will you compromise with this power and put it through a thousand and one beliefs concocted by the mind of man. Instead, you permit it to take shape and form, even as the air takes the shape automatically of any vessel, yet never congeals or becomes set in that form, but lasts only for the moment of the duration of the desire.

"Thou openest thine hand, and satisfiest the desire of every living thing" - it is a carte blanche releasement of HIS Love, and it has to be received naturally and not as some special dispensation. It is as though the Golden Shadow has cleared away all obstruction between you and His Love, and you can hear, and really HEAR what is being communicated to the earth plane; now you can really know the full dimensions of His Love, and that all manifestation will take place, independent of your thought and without any effort.

As a sudden heavy rain falls upon a parched desert and is instantly absorbed, so does this descent of spirit come upon you. It instantly changes the nature of the desert and the very seeds already there begin to stir. Something is to take place - "the desert is to blossom as a rose" - because of the downpour of His Love, and because of the Recognition. You are being conditioned to a new dimension.

The Golden Shadow is the Golden Fleece which you have sought for so long and which has been guarded by the Gorgon, with her snaky locks of human devices, ways and means. Upon whomsoever this Golden Shadow rests, something - a quickening, takes place - without effort, and without any of the old ideas of healing and helping. It is entirely impersonal and natural and has nothing at all to do with human thought. Nothing can stay it, nothing can project it; it is a natural movement or urge in the mind of God passing through the temple-body (man) casting the Golden Shadow of Love and doing the things called "miraculous" by its revealing Light.

"Thou openest thine hand, and satisfiest the desire of every living thing." Heaven and earth are full of thee - full, pressed down, and running over - there is not one empty vessel left, - even the borrowed ones are full. The Love of God keeps flowing until everything is satisfied. And all the while the Golden Shadow keeps revealing the intensely practical angle of it. It is not a mystical intangible thing, but something to be experienced and something to be handled with the hands and something that causes the wine of inspiration to flow through the body-temple with the rush of a pure mountain torrent. Health is absorbed into the LIFE of GOD, which knows no limitations.

"Thou openest thine hand, and satisfiest the desire of every living thing." You must be ALIVE to participate in this benefit. You have to come out of the tomb of human thinking into the clean, fresh and almost fierce tides of LIFE. You have to be ALIVE in the recognition and the instant response to HIS Voice.
To human thought His word is almost unbearably stimulating, breaking its limitations. The Spirit refuses to be longer held in the narrow confines of the letter. The grandeur, the magnificence of pure Spirit leaves you speechless and bereft of all thought. "Let the earth keep silent before me and renew her strength" - the body, the temple, the earth of you is experiencing the renewing of self-revelation.

You have entered a new mansion where there are "singing masons building roofs of gold."* "Beauty, then is the destiny" ** which begins to shape itself and put to flight the FATE of human thought.

Yes, "thou openest thine hand, and satisfiest the desires of every living thing." Right now - stay there a moment.

"Not to desire is to have." Can you hear?

Walter Lanyon
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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #354 on: July 26, 2012, 02:35:12 PM »
A SNIPPET FROM TRUTH AS I SEE IT W.F. SALTER

"Does God not love His enemies, even as He has taught us to love ours? If He fails to reconcile even one, must it not be due to a lack of love, or of power? These qualities find their source in Him! So of a certainty He shall bring circumstances to bear which shall ultimately cause all to know, with understanding, His great love manifested in the gift of His Son, and this in turn shall fill each heart with adoration and love, and praise to God.

When God's plans for the ages of time (eonian times) have been accomplished, every experience of man will, under the guidance of His wisdom, work together with every other experience for man's highest ultimate good, and thus redound to God's honour and glory." 10
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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #355 on: July 26, 2012, 04:00:38 PM »
If it not be by the hand of God, how can I, a sinner, become a more compassionate and forgiving person, for it is the putting of Himself into me that brings about His desired result in me.
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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #356 on: July 27, 2012, 02:36:46 PM »
Amen Jugghead :-)

A SNIPPET FROM A SHORT HELP AND INCENTIVE TO AN UNBIASED INQUIRY INTO THE SCRIPTURE TRUTH OF UNIVERSALISM OR THE FINAL RESTORATION OF ALL THINGS R. ROE

"The adjective aionios, in the case of the wicked, is restricted to a limited period by its noun kolasis; of which the literal sense is clipping or pruning. It means the kind of punishment which tends to the improvement of the criminal. If endless were the sense of the adjective describing chastisement, it would represent God as acting under the influence of an endlessly vain expectation.

The belief of the Universalist includes a reconciliation of the tenets of Calvinism and Arminianism, by uniting the leading doctrines of both as far as they are found in the Scriptures; from which union they believe that the sentiment of Universal Restoration naturally flows." 11
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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #357 on: July 28, 2012, 06:06:45 AM »

The belief of the Universalist includes a reconciliation of the tenets of Calvinism and Arminianism, by uniting the leading doctrines of both as far as they are found in the Scriptures; from which union they believe that the sentiment of Universal Restoration naturally flows." 11


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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #358 on: July 28, 2012, 09:54:09 PM »
A SNIPPET FROM THE FIVE SMOOTH STONES OF THE KINGDOM IRENE LINDSAY

"It is a great giant, this one called eternal hell!!! It can only be killed by the stone of truth taken from the running waters of God's word. These waters have been running for a long time, but the stone to kill the giant is ready now.

God told Israel to set everything free in the year of Jubilee. God is going to have a Jubilee in totality over all sin, all death, and all destruction in this world. This world belongs to God and it shall be restored and shine with glory. God's tapestry is unrolling bit by bit, and when it is all unrolled, the great Jubilee of rest for the entire universe will be unveiled." 12
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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #359 on: July 29, 2012, 10:47:19 PM »
A SNIPPET FROM TIME AND ETERNITY A BIBLICAL STUDY - G.T. STEVENSON

"Many plain direct statements in the sacred scriptures declare that the purpose of God through our Lord Jesus Christ is to bless all humanity and to bring the whole universe into harmony with Himself.

How can this be if myriads of mankind whom He so loves were to be kept alive forever in hopeless misery? And what kind of a god could love the sinner with Calvary love until he died, and then leave him in indescribable suffering eternally?" 13
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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #360 on: July 30, 2012, 09:24:44 PM »
A SNIPPET FROM THE DIVINE DESTINY K. ROSS MCKAY

"The great enmity of mankind is but a background to magnify and display the far greater love of our God. Such love is as measureless as it is timeless; a vast portion being yet unrevealed. 'And having made peace through the blood of Christ's cross, by Him to reconcile all unto Himself, whether those on the earth or those in the heavens.' This plan of the ages is our Lord's ultimate purpose according to the declared will of Almighty God. This is the divine destiny of all in His creation. This is love that never fails." 14
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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #361 on: August 01, 2012, 01:43:35 AM »
A SNIPPET FROM IS HELL ETERNAL? MIKKEL DAHL AND JON R. WELKER

"Many Christian ministers seek only to search out passages of scripture that corroborate the eternal hell school of theology to which they belong; and whatever passages are unfortunately found in conflict are put through the required interpretations and contortions to disqualify for entry. Christian ministers all have posts to fill; they have a job to hold down; wherefore they dare not reach out for truth lest they should see too much and their conscience disturb them and their livelihood be imperilled." 15
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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #362 on: August 01, 2012, 04:29:44 PM »
A SNIPPET FROM IS HELL ETERNAL? MIKKEL DAHL AND JON R. WELKER

"Many Christian ministers seek only to search out passages of scripture that corroborate the eternal hell school of theology to which they belong; and whatever passages are unfortunately found in conflict are put through the required interpretations and contortions to disqualify for entry. Christian ministers all have posts to fill; they have a job to hold down; wherefore they dare not reach out for truth lest they should see too much and their conscience disturb them and their livelihood be imperilled." 15
I think that's true for non ET ministers too. (but likely they are on that position because of searching)
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #363 on: August 01, 2012, 07:47:57 PM »
A SNIPPET FROM THE DOCTRINE OF ETERNAL TORMENTS OVERTHROWN by Samuel Richardson, edited by Thomas Whittemore, and published by him in 1833. On page 85, Whittemore says that Richardson wrote this book nearly 200 years before 1833.

First of all, there is what Richardson wrote nearly 200 years before 1833: "The doctrine of endless hell torments hath caused many to murder themselves, taking away their own lives by poison, stabbing, drowning, hanging, strangling, and shooting themselves, casting themselves out of windows, and from high places, to break their necks and by other kinds of death, that they might not live to increase their sin, and increase their torments in hell."

Now here is what Whittemore the editor, wrote at the bottom of the page nearly 200 years later in 1833:
"Here we see the same dreadful effects attended the doctrine of endless misery nearly 200 years ago which attend it now. It was then the cause of anxiety, despair, and suicide, as we suppose it always was before, where fully believed, and as we know it has been of late years. Let posterity know, that within the last ten years, there have been a large number of suicides, which must be attributed to the doctrine of endless torment. That doctrine makes men melancholy; it drives them to despair; they know not what to do; and they sever the brittle thread, Fathers and Mothers, in repeated instances in the United States, have murdered their children, lest they should grow up, and commit sin, and be damned. Can a doctrine which produces such dreadful consequences be the doctrine of God?" End of Quote. 16
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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #364 on: August 02, 2012, 09:37:37 PM »
A SNIPPET FROM THE GREEK WORD AION AIONIOS TRANSLATED EVERLASTING ETERNAL IN THE HOLY BIBLE SHOWN TO DENOTE LIMITED DURATION JOHN WESLEY HANSON

"The word aidios (not aionios) was in universal use among the non-Christian Greek Jews of our Savior's day, to convey the idea of eternal duration, and was used by them to teach endless punishment.

Jesus never allowed himself to use it in connection with punishment, nor did any of His disciples but one, and he but once, and then carefully and expressly limited its meaning. Can demonstration go further than this to show that Jesus carefully avoided the phraseology by which His contemporaries described the doctrine of endless punishment? Jesus never adopted the language of His day on this subject. Their language was aidios timoria, endless torment. His language was aionion kolasin, age-lasting correction. They described unending ruin, He, discipline, resulting in reformation." 17
See this link.
http://hellbusters.8m.com/upd3.html
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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #365 on: August 03, 2012, 12:36:11 PM »
actually aidos is used in Jude and it is not expressing eternal or everlasting. It is expressing  limited duration otherwordly(supernatural chains that hold the angels that left their proper abode(exceeded their authority, perverted their giftings, etc or whatever)in nature, like 'olam'

And angels who did not keep their own domain, but abandoned their proper abode, He has kept in eternal(aidos) bonds under darkness for(until) the judgment of the great day,
(Jud 1:6)

This is one of the weaknesses of UR theology, there is a tendency to repeat by rote things we hear rather than checking things out.

Even tho Hanson's point is correct about Jesus's phraseolgy, setting up "aidos" as a strawman is unconvincing to any real Greek scholar form the opposing camp, and plays into the idea that we universalists just play it the way we want it to be.

Aidos was clearly not "universally" used for evrlasting or eternal if one of the only two times it appears in the New Testament was for "from the time of inception until the day of judgment".

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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #366 on: August 03, 2012, 10:32:51 PM »
actually aidos is used in Jude and it is not expressing eternal or everlasting. It is expressing  limited duration otherwordly(supernatural chains that hold the angels that left their proper abode(exceeded their authority, perverted their giftings, etc or whatever)in nature, like 'olam'

And angels who did not keep their own domain, but abandoned their proper abode, He has kept in eternal(aidos) bonds under darkness for(until) the judgment of the great day,
(Jud 1:6)

This is one of the weaknesses of UR theology, there is a tendency to repeat by rote things we hear rather than checking things out.

Even tho Hanson's point is correct about Jesus's phraseolgy, setting up "aidos" as a strawman is unconvincing to any real Greek scholar form the opposing camp, and plays into the idea that we universalists just play it the way we want it to be.

Aidos was clearly not "universally" used for evrlasting or eternal if one of the only two times it appears in the New Testament was for "from the time of inception until the day of judgment".

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Hi eaglesway. I think that interested folk will examine the contents of the link and decide for themselves as to whether or not your conclusions are right.
http://hellbusters.8m.com/upd3.html
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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #367 on: August 03, 2012, 10:34:59 PM »
A LETTER OF THE CELEBRATED JOHN FOSTER TO A YOUNG MINISTER ON THE DURATION OF FUTURE PUNISHMENT AND AN EARNEST APPEAL TO THE AMERICAN TRACT SOCIETY IN REGARDS TO THE CHARACTER OF ITS PUBLICATIONS JOHN FOSTER

"The original terms translated everlasting, eternal, forever, are often employed in the Bible, as well as other writings under various limitations of import and are thus withdrawn from the predicament of meaning endless duration.

Since the terms do not necessarily signify an interminable duration, and since there is in the present instance to be pleaded for admitting a limited interpretation, a reason in the moral estimate of things of stupendous infinite urgency involving our perceptions of the divine goodness, and leaving those conceptions overwhelmed in darkness and horror if it be rejected, I therefore conclude that a limited interpretation is authorized." 18
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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #368 on: August 04, 2012, 05:41:24 PM »
It's rather horrible, to look into the darkness and death in religious people's eyes when you've been sharing truths from the Word concerning the true nature of God that contradicts ceaseless torture for ever.  They seem to be kept unhearing by a power of darkness.  Sometimes they get agitated, jumping quickly from concept to concept without the decency to allow a conversation.  This is at least a borderline demonic quickening they sometimes think is "The" anointing.

I wonder if we should continue making the effort to speak on topic in such situations, perhaps changing instead to point out to them what they're doing.  The response to this in turn has been their worsening in vehemnant antagonism.  Since I mostly do "street witnessing" I tend not to see these people again which is an influence to make an all out effort on the spot and not postpone it.  A great improvement is possible if people could just see themselves.

How about their never calling or stopping by, though I've left information for that with them?  We're supposed to seek to free those who have been taken captive by the devil at his own will.  When I've gone to deliver someone, offering them words of wisdom and knowldge from the Word, I've sometimes found I was the one who was wrong.  I actually helped myself to move on by seeking to patiently help someone else; well, I think it's more accurate to say it was the Holy Spirit's doing who revealed to me their understanding was more in line with what is Written.  Sometimes I've made a new friend that way.
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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #369 on: August 04, 2012, 09:53:47 PM »
Thanks for sharing that reFORMer.

IS HELL ETERNAL OR WILL GOD'S PLAN FAIL - CHARLES H. PRIDGEON

"The plan of God, or as it literally reads 'according to the plan of the ages' (Eph.3:11) will work out as God purposed; It will not fail. God shall be All in all (1Cor.15:28). The saving work of Christ will continue throughout the ages, for Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and for the ages (Heb.13:8). God's purpose and plan in creation, redemption, and new creation will then be clearly apprehended by all, and His character will be unveiled and vindicated." 19
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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #370 on: August 05, 2012, 12:04:21 PM »
I wonder if we should continue making the effort to speak on topic in such situations, perhaps changing instead to point out to them what they're doing.  The response to this in turn has been their worsening in vehemnant antagonism.

Do what I do, don't bother trying to convince anyone of "the point". I simply tell people there is a plan of UR & leave it at that. If their minds are not already made up on that issue, then they will stop & ask you to explain, if they don't then it only means they don't care.


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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #371 on: August 05, 2012, 10:28:49 PM »
Good point Paul.

THE GOSPEL FROM OUTER SPACE ROBERT SHORT

"The gospel of love heard from the churches is at bottom a gospel at gunpoint. This gospel claims to speak of a great love, but only one step behind this "love" is an unspoken, or often very vocal great threat the threat of eternity in "hell" if we refuse this love. What a travesty of love, even human love, not to mention God's! For one would think that God's love ought to be at least as great as what human beings are capable of. It is precisely the implied or expressed threat of eternal perdition that compromises the churches' 'gospel of love,' and gives this 'gospel' the lie to ordinary people, and is in fact behind by far, most of atheism.

On the other hand, this is not the quality of mercy I see in God. I get the strong feeling of an infinite, unconditional, no-strings-attached love for all people. At the same time this love is all-powerful and sovereign. It is not so flimsy and pitifully weak that it can be finally frustrated or defeated by mere human whim or by meagre man's arrogant illusion called 'free will.' " 20
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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #372 on: August 06, 2012, 02:21:23 AM »
It is also so dynamic and overwhelmingly beautiful, that if man's will were free (and I believe, in a measure, it is), it would be inexoriably and universally won over to love, through the "lifting up" of Christ on the cross.

For this reason I am determined to know nothing among you but Christ and Him crucified.
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THE GREAT REVELATION OR GOD'S LOVE, PURPOSE AND PLAN JOHN H. PATON

"Some say that if it can be proved that the punishment of the wicked will have an end, the same argument will prove that the life of the righteous will also end. But this is too much to take for granted on such a premise. Aionios does not of itself indicate either the limited or unlimited duration of anything, but its duration in each case depends on the nature of that to which it is applied.

Colored glasses give color to whatever men look at, and it is difficult for many to divest themselves of the influence of former teaching so far as to be willing to look at a thing from the standpoint of another.

Some of us have done this however. Though trained in the old school of thought, we have been enabled, by a careful examination of the Scriptures, to throw off the old idea and to accept the larger and better hope. And we are assured that the plan of the ages with its progressive revelation, and the general scope and spirit of the gospel as a revelation of the infinite love and wisdom of God, are far stronger evidence of the final victory of Christ in saving all men, than the mere definition of any word could be." 21
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Re: SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT
« Reply #374 on: August 07, 2012, 09:47:47 PM »
AN ANALYTICAL STUDY OF WORDS LOUIS ABBOTT

In the forward to his book AN ANALYTICAL STUDY OF WORDS, Louis Abbott wrote, "One key area various denominations are divided over is the final destiny of the ungodly, the wicked, the unsaved, the unregenerate, or however one wishes to phrase it.
There are three views on this subject. Each position claims Scriptural support: (1) eternal torment; (2) eternal destruction; and (3) the ultimate salvation of all. It is obvious that all cannot be correct.
I pray this book will be a blessing to all who are struggling with this subject." (unquote)

This book can be read online at this link
AN ANALYTICAL STUDY OF WORDS
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/asw/index.html

ENJOY!
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"God will have all mankind to be saved" 1Timothy 2:4