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Snippets from the ETV (Eternal Torture Version Bible)

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--- Quote from: ded2daworld on December 01, 2012, 04:16:53 PM ---In chapter 4 of Genesis, God has a second opportunity to warn about eternal torment. Cain murders his own brother Abel.
Does God say anything about eternal torment for it? NO
God tells Cain that because of the murder he is cursed and will be a restless wanderer on the earth. (Cain is already going to eventually die since he is descendant of Adam) What?? What kind of eternal torture is that? God never even mentioned it.
Even with being under a curse to be a wanderer, Cain says his punishment is greater than he can bear!!
Cain is afraid someone will kill him. The Lord says if anyone does, he will suffer vengeance 7 times over. What??
This was even before "a life for a life" for how could vengeance applied to anyone killing Cain be the penalty of being killed themselves 7 TIMES!!

--- End quote ---

Perhaps the 7 times over vengeance is the second death, aionian kolassis- definitely a fearful prospect, but not "being tormented forever"- which would be 10 to the 10th power veangeance multiplied by google.

Maybe, but the 7 times over was for anyone that killed the murderer, not the murderer himself. What?? :laugh:

The murderer of the murderer is a murderer :o) Murder begets more murder.

This is not done to hurt - but to cause people to think about the God they worship, who He is and what He does.

(ETV)Gen 18:18 - Abraham will become a great and powerful nation, and some of the nations on earth will be blessed because of him.

(Actual) Gen 18:18 - "Abraham will become a great and powerful nation, and all the nations on earth will be blessed because of him."

Lazarus Short:

--- Quote from: eaglesway on December 01, 2012, 08:55:45 PM ---Murder begets more murder.

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[ETV]:  "Murder begat more murder, and more murder begat serial murder, and serial murder begat mass murder, and mass murder begat genocide, and genocide begat the end of the human race; and most of them went directly to Hell." :doh: :footmouth: :doh:


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