I know I'm partially arguing an ad hominem argument from my own experiences, what's ideal, and though a clearly Scriptural principle is at the same time not at the same time modeled for us consistently throughout the Scriptures from cover to cover. I would want to spare anyone the mistakes that I made by saying to dodge at all costs putting themselves into the path of oncoming iniquity. Without getting into specifics, apart from the Holy Spirit choosing to go there through me, I know the "already married in the eyes of God" argument and that that actually precedes any kind of marital bonding over the bread and cup of one another's bodies and all of their related milks and honeys. Your physical body is either the precious Organic Word of the Living God, or it's AntiChrist! Is your physical body the Ark of the Covenant, or is it an Idol's Temple? There isn't a third option or inbetween spot, and generally speaking of anything that wasn't a violent act, it's your [ongoing] choice and commitment to which it is! Because sex is absolutely always
a blood offering whether or not you ever actually [experientially within the range of your eyesight] detect anything crimson or not!
I've already been "married in the eyes of God" to someone for quite a long while now, and could lay down a counter argument to the one that I've been standing by with every kind of justification of me and so and so belonging to each other, it being permanent, it having all of God's blessings and corresponding miracles that folks that randomly view these threads would never believe in a hundred years, etc. It is a very tired old saying that "true love waits," but that's only because folks have been waiting on each other rather than on Him for His confirmation with signs, wonders, the prophetic, and other things to indicate His being all for it -- because in today's world, only God can hold two people together.
I'm not saying anything that I've said out of prudery, or envy that because I can't, then nobody else can either
which is what's left as the impression on a lot of people when a lot of pastors and evangelists will say similar things to what I've been saying on this thread, only to be BUSTED with their hands in the cookie jar that doesn't minimally have the unsigned marriage license in the pocket indicating clear intent and commitment. And I'm not saying anything out of "on the remote chance so and so happens to read that I posted this." She already knows where I stand on this and that I could very very easily go there TODAY, -- but am waiting on God's timing, as is she, and we're pursuing His Kingdom and His righteousness, rather than emotional self gratification that's got zero roots in what would last. Zero questions that the relationship I'm in is "forever" 'cause there's a way of interpreting all that God's been telling me since I embraced His Lordship in 1990 as Him having been speaking to me about her and trying to speed things up with growing me up, but I missed His cues and flat out disobeyed and caused delays.
What I'm trying to emphasize on this thread with what I've been saying is that this is genuinely a life altering decision that impacts upon conscience, your health in the best of circumstances, your emotions (even when it comes to guys), your relationship with God, your relationship with the world around you, your destiny, your view of yourself, your integrity, your future motives, your memories, your sowing and reaping, often upon your reputation, because of the unique psychic place this has in your life even if you don't view yourself as psychic -- it'll still effect every single relationship that you have, and not just the one with the person you've chosen to be sexual with (again, because of the above influences it will have on your surroundings, concepts, integrity, view of yourself, relationship with God, memories and reactions, social and mental health, view of others, et. al.). Few other things effect your view of others more than THIS!!
Doing my absolute, absolute best to only be lead of the Holy Spirit in divulging this, but because of the very seriousness of this matter and how important this is to your well being, destiny, and other issues, I'll imitate St. Paul taking the lower road "to by all means deliver some" even if legalists on taking Jesus out of context would try to bust me as having done this to be seen of men -- when my Father Who sees in Secret has already Seen, and IS UNQUESTIONABLY REWARDING ME OPENLY THIS DAY!! AND MORE THAN I COULD HAVE EVER HOPED!! Because of how this is a question that could have Scripture thrown at it on both sides of the issue, I'll pull a St. Paul here and do [with full conviction] an "imitate me as I imitate Christ" where this is concerned. The Scriptures say that what God puts together, let not man put asunder, or try to divide. Praying in the Spirit the last couple of hours about including this last part with this post. Okay... St. Paul spoke of being in fastings often in his walk of faith and imitation of Jesus Christ. Today completes my 40th day of a fast with regards to this very issue, and if I ever
"went there" without the certificate on the wall that was filed with the county it would be based on the following factors:1.
Having [this day] completed 40 days of a fast making sure that not my will, but His is being done, and having His SUPERNATURAL confirmation of His Will regarding the relationship -- including prophetic counsel from others that was undeniably the Lord giving out of the mouth of multiple witnesses and a certain degree of reasonable assurance that the additional confirming voices -- beyond all of the other cool things God's done along the way -- were oblivious to what was growing in our hearts about this in the natural;2.
Since being totally committed to Him and it seeming good to the Holy Spirit and to her, then I've committed myself to someone ENTIRELY with such an established Covenant that there's genuinely no way out EVER;3.
Being her servant and being sensitive to her needs rather than to mine;4.
Psalm 15:4 -- I've sworn to my own hurt over this to where death is our only separation, and the same has been received from her, and over the fast learning from Him that her word's as good as mine or His.5.
Making sure it's "equally yoked" with someone of compatible/negotiable depth in the Word and the Spirit. Not dealing with a novice in faith on either her part or mine, and we've pursued Him wholeheartedly and have prayed all of the prayers of faith over a long enough period of time about not being lead into temptation, but that we'd be delivered from evil, and if we "went there" prematurely to having the county as a witness with that filed document that documents the ceremony and the covenant as a public testimony to the whole county, then we're both confident it would be fullness of love rather than getting our jollies like a couple of 15 year olds in the back of a car at a drive in theatre or whatever.6.
Full conviction, and I know this gets into subjects of spiritual adults that's beyond the scope of this thread, but with regards to accountability levels before Him "when you're of full age" according to Hebrews 5 -- we know if we're knowingly wrong, we've signed our death certificate with Him 'cause He's not playing with either of our callings and His work in our lives thus far, the Anointing and Blood upon our lives, and all He's Anointed us to do. Though there's this sense of urgency about sensitivity in our footing before Him in our walk BECAUSE of our knowledge of Him and previous experience of His Spirit, and for some this 6th point may seem a bit unfair to tack on to this list as a pattern to follow because it can take years to get to spiritual maturity in Him -- it's still something to keep you on your face about because that person you "open yourself to" whether you're a male or female and whether they're a male or female is going to deeply effect your rate of growth in God's Written Word and Supernatural Spirit and how sure your footing is in following the Shepherd of your souls, or whether you wind up having to face extended stays in the valley of the shadow of death. They'll effect you that way, and you'll effect them that way!7.
Knowing that sex IS death to self AND IS NEVER CASUAL, but will either grow, develop, enhance, and release into manifestations from glory to glory the mark of His Spirit upon your life or will grow, develop, enhance, and release into manifestations of the mark of the Beast upon your life, from death to death. No middle ground. It's ALWAYS calling related, even if you're only called to be a waiter or trash collector. (Whether we're ever called as more to function in the fullness of all of His Mysteries, Wisdom, and Power is His calling to start with, and being oblivious to such a further calling than what you're doing never prevents Him from doing more in and through you along the way, if He wanted to call you later in life, kapish?) And anything that effects that will effect the quality and fruitfulness of your prayer life; the length, depth, breadth, height, and weight of your harvests, and whether or not Jesus Christ is able to use you EFFECTIVELY to reverse every single generational curse that's been in your family and community, or whether though called you're not chosen 'cause you weren't faithful as a steward of His Temple, the Mysteries of God you had attained to from His Written Word and Holy Spirit, and of your worship [and thanksgiving] before Him -- which is uniquely effected by this and therefore should be seen in the very serious light that the New Testament puts this in. 1Thessalonians 4 says this is one of the [very few] ways you can be judged as having rejected God.
I wish to say many more things, but have the witness of the Holy Spirit to conclude this post here to allow others digestion time.