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Reasons for believing in Universal Salvation through Jesus Christ

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battle axe:




--- Quote ---That gives us a choice.  You can offer me a gift and I can refuse it.
--- End quote ---
That's a often heard ET argument. Boils down to this: 100% gets the offer. 5% accept it. 95% goes to hell because they choose eternal torture.

Yes if you ask somebody to go to a christian meeting of some kind MOST people would choose the flesh instead go somewhere else & spend the time doing what they like, (not attracted to God, somehow God is boring full of laws & rules which of course is not true, but if thats what they choose to believe him to be then thats there fault)

Im strugling with the classic verse > 16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.      Shall not perish?  Maybe perishing could be just been flesh forever & not been able to live or partke in the spirit of glory?   Jesus spoke of destruction, perishing I heard something verry interesting from a in depth bible study that Jesus only ever spoke of hell to the believers??    Im mystified by that?


only 1 thing can be true rather we are wanting to believe what we want to believe,  Or its true what we feel he has showed us & God really is so loving beyond our imagination

battle axe:
Forgive me if im taking the negative verses but in 2 peter 9 it reads > He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

Again Perishing? I hope perish means punishment leading to an eventual redemption.

THere are lots of gems in Peter the new earth is a home of righteousness, not hell I just read.
Ian mc cormack (also known as the Jelly fish man) saw a new heaven & earth, he went into darkest blackness before in the Glorious presence of the Lord,  2 Peter 2 v 17 These men are springs without water and mists driven by a storm. Blackest darkness is reserved for them.  Ian wasn't shown any further insight regarding hell and the future of that place or for how long.

God bless you im going to bed now   :thumbsup: :HeartThrob:

misszoolander:
For me personally,

I can not go back to the god I grudgingly loved, and couldn't trust enough to save me, even as a Christian!

This is way I believe in UR

Because I tasted his never failing love, I am inlove with my great, awesome, almighty, powerful God who will never forsake me.

battle axe:

--- Quote from: misszoolander on January 25, 2013, 10:28:43 AM ---For me personally,

I can not go back to the god I grudgingly loved, and couldn't trust enough to save me, even as a Christian!

This is way I believe in UR

Because I tasted his never failing love, I am inlove with my great, awesome, almighty, powerful God who will never forsake me.

--- End quote ---

Amen thats a very sinciere sharing from a heart that knows it belongs to its loving saviour,  I too despite some of my questions witness to the unfailing love that he has for me & for others too.   This is the joy to behold & joy unspeakable I felt when he showed me things before, I should follow my convictions more than any doubts that scripture might appear to suggest otherwise.

wiley16350:
The one that I find explains it the best is the fact that death will be the last enemy defeated, which is declared definitively in Revelations.  It doesn't matter what somebody says the 2nd death is.  Spiritual death, physical death or seperation from God.  Each one has to be defeated.  To defeat spiritual death, God must make all spritually alive.  To defeat physical death, God must make all physically alive.  To defeat seperation from God, God would have to bring all into his precense.  I don't see how you could get around that except to deny that the bible claims that death will be defeated.

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