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Offline marie glen

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prisoners of war?
« on: April 21, 2010, 07:21:20 PM »
   (In 2 Kings 6) when the Syrian army, long ago, came out to surround and seize the prophet Elisha, he told his servant (worker, helper) not to fear, that the army with them was larger than the army against them, and prayed his friend would be able to see the chariots of fire upon all the land around the Syrian army.
   As the story progresses, when the Syrian army had been blinded, Elisha led them into the capital city of Israel at the time, at which time they could see, and found they were surrounded by the armies of Israel.
   The king of Israel shouted to Elisha "should I kill them?" 
   But Elisha shouted back "Do we kill prisoners of war?" And made a feast for them instead and sent them on their way.
   At the end of this unavoidable journey we are on, life as we presently know it, the second resurrection is not as joyful as the first resurrection (initially, that is). All those who went to their graves unsaved, will find themselves among the second resurrection, living through and experiencing the long day of the judgment and examination of all things and history, etc, along with all those of the first resurrection and all angels.. It's only after that long day when will be heard those notorious words "those not believing will go to the 2nd death", but after experiencing being resurrected and also witnessing and living through the long day of the examination of all history, etc, who's not going to believe?
   When I read the account of Elisha and the Syrian army I was struck with the idea that the second resurrection is somewhat like being a 'prisoner of war' and that it is beyond God to mistreat them... :smile:
- Does it say no repentance after death? being resurrected still in their sins (2nd Resurrection) during age of Judgment? sure to be weeping and wailing?
- Is weeping & wailing the beginning of the redemptive process?
- "Behold I make aLL things new" Rev21:5
- "On every high mountain and hill, rivers and streams of waters in the day ..when the towers fall." Is 30:25
- "A new heavens and a new earth" Rev 21:1
- "The lion will eat straw like the ox.. the bear will graze with the cow" Is 11:7
- "They will sit each under his vine, and under his fig-tree, with none troubling.." Micah 4:4

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Re: prisoners of war?
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2010, 08:44:56 PM »
Is this a commentary you're quoting?  Or is this a summary of how you see the second resurrection to be?

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Re: prisoners of war?
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2010, 01:35:41 AM »
Yes to both, it's a commentary which to me compares to the 2nd resurrection :smile:
- Does it say no repentance after death? being resurrected still in their sins (2nd Resurrection) during age of Judgment? sure to be weeping and wailing?
- Is weeping & wailing the beginning of the redemptive process?
- "Behold I make aLL things new" Rev21:5
- "On every high mountain and hill, rivers and streams of waters in the day ..when the towers fall." Is 30:25
- "A new heavens and a new earth" Rev 21:1
- "The lion will eat straw like the ox.. the bear will graze with the cow" Is 11:7
- "They will sit each under his vine, and under his fig-tree, with none troubling.." Micah 4:4

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Re: prisoners of war?
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2010, 06:23:56 AM »
Although the sentiment is admirable, when I read these kinds of things I wonder. Does God really play these kinds of little tricks upon us in His word? It may be( I believe it is) that the day itself is the fire, and the tribunal is but an instant awareness that there is now no veil between the one accustomed to darkness and the flames that burn from the eyes of the one before whom all things are open- the one whose word is a fire that consumes the stubble. The sentence , however, involves what our Lord described as an extremely difficult experience, I do not think it will just suddenly be regarded as inappropriate, or as a mistreatment-I think the word has more gravitas than that.

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