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Offline JBerton

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Re: Mary Baxter's book "A Divine Revelation of Hell"
« Reply #25 on: April 20, 2013, 12:41:17 AM »
In the review by "The Path of Truth," I took particular notice of the hypothetical statement that would be made by someone who repents, "Whew, that was close! Good thing I made the right decision!"  Good point.  According to man's gospel of fear, one "gets saved" from hell.  The idea is that we are given the threat of hell to encourage us to live on the straight-and-narrow path.  So many "accept Christ as their savior" out of fear.  The don't get saved, they get fire insurance.  When one of us UR'ists comes along and debunks hell, they go into a rage because we are threatening to take away what they think will bring in the lost sheep.  UR scares them!  I have talked to several ET'ers about hell being a myth, and the first question out of their mouth is, "Then what did Jesus die for?"  Is that not profoundly sad?  What did Jesus die for?  Really?

You see, the problem with ET'ers is that the heresy goes much deeper than just believing in hell at the surface.  Their whole doctrine is built around hell.  The scope of this pagan heresy is overwhelming.  I know.  I've been there.  It is a deep trap that only God can pull them out of, as he has done for each of us on this forum - Praise be to the Father for his Truth!
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Re: Mary Baxter's book "A Divine Revelation of Hell"
« Reply #26 on: April 20, 2013, 07:45:54 PM »
So many "accept Christ as their savior" out of fear...

…as opposed to love, no doubt. But is it possible to really love someone you came to purely because you thought they'd burn you forever otherwise, and to desire to serve them from the heart when selfish fear of the consequences of not doing so was what made you want to worship the object of terror in the first place (not that I blame anyone for trying their best to please God because they think an eternity in the flames of hell will be their fate if they fail to!)? Can a negative input yield a positive output?

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When one of us UR'ists comes along and debunks hell, they go into a rage because we are threatening to take away what they think will bring in the lost sheep.

For reasons already stated, I find it difficult to envisage the threat of ET acting as the catalyst that makes a person feel affection for God anyway. Besides, shouldn't someone who knows what it's like to experience the joy of life in Christ while in the flesh want as many others as possible to experience it here and now too, instead of being content to just leave it for the lake of fire or whatever to turn others to him?

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You see, the problem with ET'ers is that the heresy goes much deeper than just believing in hell at the surface.  Their whole doctrine is built around hell.  The scope of this pagan heresy is overwhelming.  I know.  I've been there.  It is a deep trap that only God can pull them out of, as he has done for each of us on this forum - Praise be to the Father for his Truth!

I'm aware of a couple of people for whom it was the other way around (i.e. UR to ET) - one of whose switchovers I could foresee a good year or two in advance (he's the guy I wrote about in my previous post) because he was becoming increasingly judgmental and coming off more and more as the sort who'd probably get a buzz out of condemning to hell those he objected to. (When it finally began to happen, even members of an evangelical church he was a part of but would later fall out with weren't to be spared. Furthermore, he asserted that URists were self-righteous for thinking of themselves as superior for rejecting the teaching of everlasting maltreatment, and was quick to call others self-righteous also even though anyone who did likewise to him or his ilk was projecting their anger - as I gathered were at least some of those who queried his allegations more tactfully, though one polite fellow on his discussion forum was instead more charitably accused by him of possessing "evil views". In a nutshell: anyone who didn't see things quite as he did was "in rebellion against God" - a favorite charge of his. Guess he was too shallow and unbalanced to have it any other way.) Not known him to condemn anyone to hell within the last three or so years mind you, although I don't go to his website very often these days and never look at every page there when I do.

Having seen Mary Baxter on YouTube, though, it's certainly not my opinion that she's a nasty power tripper who enjoys damning people to hell - rather, she seems to have compassion for the lost and genuinely doesn't appear to want anybody to go to the horrific place she claims to have been to. In which case, if she truly does believe what she writes and says about it because her visions were totally real to her, it's hardly surprising if she struggles a bit to hang on to her sanity from time to time. (Gary Amirault once saw her in person at a Christian conference and doesn't believe she was mentally stable.)
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Re: Mary Baxter's book "A Divine Revelation of Hell"
« Reply #27 on: April 20, 2013, 11:10:12 PM »
...the sort who'd probably get a buzz out of condemning to hell those he objected to.

LOL. :laugh: I've seen and even met this sort of person.  Many (not all) ET'ers are like that.  I've heard them say, with a gleam in their eye, "You'll believe in hell when you get there!" :eek: These sort want hell to exist!  And if you disagree with their doctrine, they want you to go there! :punish: I think they really do get a buzz out of that sort of evil thought.  Maybe it gives them some sort of power trip or something.  At one time I realized that even I, myself, sometimes found myself hoping for someone's punishment, just like Jonah.  When the Spirit showed me this, I repented that sin.  I praise God for his guidance and teaching of righteousness!  I know I am nothing in and of myself, and I still have so much to learn.
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