I make peace, and create evil: NOT ANY MORE.

[Shadow]

I think I have good instincts and I wanted to test to see if someone else felt the same and honest shadow did pick up that he had anger towards ET, preachers, so I must have sensed that.
I agree though that we should generally Think before we Tank

...... yet you have nothing to say about the narcissistic anger and rage of ETers which is far worse, as evidenced by the second link I posted

Went to the 2nd link and I don't understand his use of 2 Peter 2:10 to justify free will, anybody?

Go to the third link where it's debunked

[thinktank]

I think I have good instincts and I wanted to test to see if someone else felt the same and honest shadow did pick up that he had anger towards ET, preachers, so I must have sensed that.
I agree though that we should generally Think before we Tank

...... yet you have nothing to say about the narcissistic anger and rage of ETers which is far worse, as evidenced by the second link I posted

Went to the 2nd link and I don't understand his use of 2 Peter 2:10 to justify free will, anybody?

Go to the third link where it's debunked

I've posted many posts about how I feel about ET on here, this is one of the biggest reason I came to register on this forum, so no shock required

I didnt post that about Peter 2:10.

I have checked the link and when I saw all those questions and the way it was formatted, I was like    its going to be a long night. So I've yet to read it.

God bless

[micah7:9]

I'm not so keen on Preston I think he has a spirit of anger about him, there's a lot of things I haven't read from him yet though.

Should Bro. Eby be angry its a about the best anger I ever want to be around! If what J.Preston Eby emits is anger then I will set in front of that teaching day and night, if that is anger that I read in his papers, then..bring it on!  If what that man of God has to offer the saints has any anger at all it is for the ignorance of those who will not hear.  My 

[Beloved Servant]

Hear, all ye good people, hear what this brilliant and eloquent speaker has to say!

Hear, hear!

[micah7:9]

You are beloved servant...I await...I am brusied, or am I to take your words as something other than slight?

[WhiteWings]

Went to the 2nd link and I don't understand his use of 2 Peter 2:10 to justify free will, anybody?

^KJV2Pe 2:10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.

I think he means that those peope freely chose "that walk" because God wouldn't command such a thing.

[Beloved Servant]

Dear Micah,

Brother, I meant that with the deepest sincerity and the utmost respect.
And, it applies to you and Preston.

[micah7:9]

The Lord blesses. Thank you Beloved.

[micah7:9]

I think I have good instincts and I wanted to test to see if someone else felt the same and honest shadow did pick up that he had anger towards ET, preachers, so I must have sensed that.
I agree though that we should generally Think before we Tank

...... yet you have nothing to say about the narcissistic anger and rage of ETers which is far worse, as evidenced by the second link I posted

Went to the 2nd link and I don't understand his use of 2 Peter 2:10 to justify free will, anybody?

Go to the third link where it's debunked

I've posted many posts about how I feel about ET on here, this is one of the biggest reason I came to register on this forum, so no shock required

I didnt post that about Peter 2:10.

I have checked the link and when I saw all those questions and the way it was formatted, I was like    its going to be a long night. So I've yet to read it.

God bless

Selfwilled...G829
αὐθάδης
authadēs
ow-thad'-ace
From G846 and the base of G2237; self pleasing, that is, arrogant: - self-willed.

[thinktank]

I think I have good instincts and I wanted to test to see if someone else felt the same and honest shadow did pick up that he had anger towards ET, preachers, so I must have sensed that.
I agree though that we should generally Think before we Tank

...... yet you have nothing to say about the narcissistic anger and rage of ETers which is far worse, as evidenced by the second link I posted

Went to the 2nd link and I don't understand his use of 2 Peter 2:10 to justify free will, anybody?

Go to the third link where it's debunked

I've posted many posts about how I feel about ET on here, this is one of the biggest reason I came to register on this forum, so no shock required

I didnt post that about Peter 2:10.

I have checked the link and when I saw all those questions and the way it was formatted, I was like    its going to be a long night. So I've yet to read it.

God bless

Selfwilled...G829
αὐθάδης
authadēs
ow-thad'-ace
From G846 and the base of G2237; self pleasing, that is, arrogant: - self-willed.

what do you mean? I don't see the word selfwilled contained within the quote

[micah7:9]

I think I have good instincts and I wanted to test to see if someone else felt the same and honest shadow did pick up that he had anger towards ET, preachers, so I must have sensed that.
I agree though that we should generally Think before we Tank

...... yet you have nothing to say about the narcissistic anger and rage of ETers which is far worse, as evidenced by the second link I posted

Went to the 2nd link and I don't understand his use of 2 Peter 2:10 to justify free will, anybody?

Go to the third link where it's debunked

I've posted many posts about how I feel about ET on here, this is one of the biggest reason I came to register on this forum, so no shock required

I didnt post that about Peter 2:10.

I have checked the link and when I saw all those questions and the way it was formatted, I was like    its going to be a long night. So I've yet to read it.

God bless

Selfwilled...G829
αὐθάδης
authadēs
ow-thad'-ace
From G846 and the base of G2237; self pleasing, that is, arrogant: - self-willed.

what do you mean? I don't see the word selfwilled contained within the quote

Went to the 2nd link and I don't understand his use of 2 Peter 2:10 to justify free will, anybody?

[willieH]

willieH: Hi Quaesitor...

Welcome to Tentmaker!

Went to the 2nd link and I don't understand his use of 2 Peter 2:10 to justify free will, anybody?

I took a quick browse, and found early mentions of 2 Pet 2:10 (in item #4 & #5)

Here are the "items" referencing 2 Pet 2:10:

4.  As God loves His friends, if He loves His enemies also, are not all mankind the objects of His love?   God loves all of His creation.  But all have sinned.  God cannot be in the presence of sin.  Because they can choose between good and evil(2Peter 2:10).  Self-willed means self-willed against God's will(2Peter2:10).  When a Christian sins, is this God's will or Man's will?

5.  If God loves those only who love Him, what better is He than the sinner? (Luke 6:32-33)  Absolutely false.  God loves all of His creation (John 3:16, 1John 2:2) so much that He sent His Son to die on the cross for our sins, even while we were are still sinners!  Mankind sinned.  God cannot sin.  The problem is man and his sinful nature.  Because they can choose between good and evil(2Peter 2:10).  Self-willed means self-willed against God's will(2Peter2:10).  When a Christian sins, is this God's will or Man's will?

The person writing these [IMO] is DISINVOLVED with reason concerning 2 Pet 2:10 -- and fails to address Scripture elsewhere which notes that ALL MEN are SINNERS because GOD has declared (decided and concluded) they shall be -- Rom 3:23 -- Psalm 14:1-3 -- Rom 3:10-12

The problem begins in Item #4... the deduction is made that "GOD cannot be in the presence of sin"...

This statement is:

(1) -- UNBIBLICAL (no BIBLICAL reference is given to establish this statement, for there are none -- if you know of one, let me know  )

(2) -- Contrary to the WORD which notes that GOD is EVERYWHERE (omniPRESENT) -- Psalm 139:8 -- Pro 15:11 -- and that ALL that exists, finds its particular EXISTENCE -- IN HIM and BY HIM -- Col 1:16 -- Acts 17:28

The author begins in Item #4 by laying a false foundation (that "God cannot be in the presence of sin", and then builds upon it in Item #5... by noting the "SELF WILL" of man, as something which is completely disassociated with GOD and His doings...

(3) -- In Item #5... the conclusion is made by the author, that "SELF WILL" means:  "self willed means self willed against GOD's will"

Eph 1:11 -- clearly notes that GOD is WORKING all things... and those [all] things are done according to the advisements (counsel) of HIS OWN WILL...   

"ALL THINGS" does not disinclude ANYTHING.  And the statement that HE IS WORKING them... notes HIS INVOLVEMENT in them, not DISASSOCIATION due to the state in which HE DECLARED they would be [SINFUL]... for HE CONCLUDED ALL in UNBELIEF -- Rom 11:32 -- and because His WORD declares that "whatsoever is NOT OF FAITH, IS SIN" -- Rom 14:23  ...further means that His conclusion of UNBELIEF in all men founds their SINFULNESS. 

...willieH 

[Quaesitor]

Thanks WillieH.

Might be because I read it in my native language(french) and the word used by the translator was arrogant/arrogance so I saw nothing about the self-will there.

I hated reading his answers because they were so poor and illogical that I had a great desire to have that man in front of me and answer him.