willieH: Hi italy...
Meerkat seems to have the best grip in observing this idea... stating:
I have been having thoughts on something related to this - when Jesus supposedly descended to hell.Supposedly
is EXACTLY the truth of this...
Meerkat then says this:
I believe that it is the people who are physically living but are dead in sin are the dead that are being preached to, I think that to be reborn spiritually is to be alive, before that you are dead in sin
Which is absolutely true...
Well, my grandpa was really special to me. He was meek, never judging, never criticizing, always receiving others. And his message of salvation included everyone. (All grandpas are special, no?)
However, he also talked about something that I've never heard others talk about, even though it seems so 'in line' with the Spirit of Christ: he told me, "Brian, when I die, I hope to go to hell!"
"Really??" I asked.
"Yep. Because then I can preach to those in prison, as Jesus did! In fact, He said, where I go, ye will go after."
Wow! Preaching to spirits in prison! How WONDERFUL!!!!!! What a PRIVILEDGE!! (And didn't Moses intervene for Isreal?--'if you destroy them, then destroy me, too!!')
And Paul would have traded his salvation for condemnation for his neighbor's sake!
Bello, bello, bello! Hallelujah!!
Hope this is a blessing to someone!
It is a nice and beautiful wish your grandpa had brother Brian... and that wish was just simply, ...to be in every way, as was his Savior...
I commend him, and aspire to follow that same premise... He left to you a wonderful example of a heart for God... and desire to serve others...
I firmly agree with meerkat, ...so sorry if this might serve to bust anyones longlasting orthodox balloon, ...but WHERE does it say that JESUS
... "went to HELL
The mention of CHRIST
going and preaching to those "in prison" (1 Pet 3:19)
does not mention any of the words which are mistranslated "HELL"
ALL men are found to be in the "prison" of SIN... which, as meerkat suggests, is SPIRITUAL BONDAGE...
PAUL even named this earthly experience to be taking place in "the body of THIS DEATH
"... (Rom 7:24)
And it was FROM it
, that DELIVERANCE was necessary...
The DEAD, hear not, see not, and are NOT "experiencing" anything (Ecc 9:5)
...this particular "Theological" idea (JESUS
going to "hell"
) is founded in "orthodox" assumptions... DEATH
and the GRAVE
(hades/sheol) are partnered to IMPRISON
us from LIFE... and JESUS
descended from HEAVEN to RELEASE each of us from that SPIRITUAL "prison
This is perfectly noted in: (Heb 2:9-10)
Until the LAST DAY... ALL shall find themselves to one degree or another, ...within that SPIRITUAL "PRISON" for the Apostle JOHN wrote to CONVERTED and SPIRITUAL Believers: (1 John 1:8-10)
...as did PAUL give his own PERSONAL admission of (ongoing involvement in) this state: (Rom 7:14-25)peACe