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Quote from: nathanI don't beleive God really is actively engaged in those happenings as much as our decision making actually is. Our consequences from what we choose to do or not do brings about much of the situations we experience.Everything we chose comes from a cause or action of some sort. I remember Herbert W Armstrong believed that God set everything in motion and then just stepped back to see what mankind done with it all. He said God left all of the decisions up to us as how our life turned out. I do think he was so wrong on that. CHB
I don't beleive God really is actively engaged in those happenings as much as our decision making actually is. Our consequences from what we choose to do or not do brings about much of the situations we experience.
Quote from: Nathan on October 14, 2011, 01:19:33 AMI'm not saying God can't or doesn't intervein, I'm saying this realm is what it is. It's temporal, it's under a curse, it's under the laws of nature in that northerly winds bring in cold, southerly winds bring in warmth . . .there are seasons of hurricanes, tornadoes . . .God doesn't create them, it's part of his "creation" that they manifest.I have no idea what "last assertion" you're referring to unless you care to post the quote.Perhaps it's best to start with Elihu; chapters 34-35-36-37.The Lord speaks at 38-39-40-41.They're short chapters;easy to read.Worth it!
I'm not saying God can't or doesn't intervein, I'm saying this realm is what it is. It's temporal, it's under a curse, it's under the laws of nature in that northerly winds bring in cold, southerly winds bring in warmth . . .there are seasons of hurricanes, tornadoes . . .God doesn't create them, it's part of his "creation" that they manifest.I have no idea what "last assertion" you're referring to unless you care to post the quote.