willieH: HI Chaplain...
Noticed you have not been here lately... but if you should return... I have a comment about your words below...
I am new her but have been reading allot of posts about hell and the restoration of God... I hope I can express this clear enough that others will understand what I have come to believe.
So here is my two cents worth...
It is interesting to me that the word "Eternal" and "Everlasting" are too often confused as being interchangeable in many denominations, but the fact is they are not!
The word ETERNAL: has the word meaning of- No beginning and No end.
The only "thing" that is Eternal is God himself.
Everything he created has a beginning... (having a starting point).
Some things He created will go on forever, thus we get the word EVERLASTING; (having a beginning but no end).
Sorry Chaplain... I ain't buyin' this... I agree that GOD is the only ETERNAL entity. However... He is
ALL in ALL... which means that we are ALL extensions OF HIM... and have yet to REGAIN the perception of this FACT... For GOD changes not (never "becomes" something He is NOT)... And therefore the state of ALL in ALL, ...just IS...
To employ the term "EVER LASTING" implies that anything which this word describes has "LASTED -- EVER" meaning it IS perpetual, NOT "from NOW --> ON!
GOD "created" time and
the realm in which this universe exists... however... though it IS present, it IS, TEMPORAL... (for the WORD
says that elements within it shall PASS AWAY - such as DEATH, TEARS, etc)...
Kind of like a pole used in the yard to prop up a young tree... It serves its purpose until the TREE takes root and is able to stand of itself... The "pole" is discarded, having served or fulfilled its intended purpose, and though we can leave it there, it no longer has a purpose attached TO IT, other than being an useless eyesore, which should be removed.
Something which is "from NOW --> ON" cannot have affixed to it, "EVER -- LASTING"... the words "EVER and LASTING", imply that this has "LASTED -- EVER" (being a continuous and UNGENERATED state, without beginning or end) -- and is incorrectly applied to this thing which in fact HAD a point of GENERATION... which means it has NOT "LASTED EVER" and is as erroneous as implying there is a "weightless weight"...
The Bible teaches that hell is darkness and isolation, yet it also is
described in some passages of a place of Eternal Fire; and "not" Everlasting Fire.
In other words: Sins being burnt off by Eternal Fire or God's Fire are very Biblical; and would signify that hell will not last forever.
I disagree with this as well... The Bible does NOT teach of "HELL" at all... this is a teaching which is invented by THEOLOGIANS (the views of MEN which are, within finite and carnal understanding, engulfed in FEAR)...
HELL is a teaching of TORMENT (from punishment) and FEAR... this teaching is ALIEN to the GOSPEL... Look up Euaggelizo
in the Greek... neither of these words within their definition, ...contain ANY fearful or negative elements... However, in the disguise of FALLACY and DECEPTION, do men clothe their FEARFUL message, falsifying it to the WORLD, as the "gospel" of the Bible... FEAR
is CAST OUT
by PERFECT LOVE
-- 1 John 4:18
-- GOD is LOVE
-- and anyone or anything immersed IN FEAR
, is NOT IMMERSED in HIM or HIS LOVE
Anything that promotes, ...FEAR
part of the GOSPEL
message... for the GOSPEL
is a message of PEACE
-- Rom 10:15 -- Eph 6:15 -- Col 1:20
-- there is NO PEACE
Sorry for being so disagreeable Chaplain, but this is how I see it...