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Does the Narrow Gate Mentioned by Jesus Rule out Universalism
« on: November 06, 2012, 07:40:42 PM »
     Many  Eternal Torment people point to the "Narrow Gate" verse mentioned by
Jesus and say that Verse Settles it, Universalism is False :Peace2:

Offline ded2daworld

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Re: Does the Narrow Gate Mentioned by Jesus Rule out Universalism
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2012, 08:26:17 PM »
That's because there is God's way(narrow) and then there is the way of the world (the broad road that leads to destruction.)
ET people are assuming that death settles everything. That is not biblical.
In this life, choosing the way of the world will cause you misery, heartache, strife, and ultimately the lifestyle will destroy you.
Choosing the way of the Lord will cause you love, joy, peace, patience, long-suffering, and contentment.
Our merciful Father could bring anyone He wants to to Christ at anytime. For his own reasons and purposes, he brings most people to Christ -after they die. Otherwise, the devil "wins" in the sense that hardly anyone (comparitively) comes to know Christ in this life. Since ET people believe your chance is over when you die, they must believe that the devil is stronger than God.
The Bible clearly states , "God WILLS all men to be saved." So, who can thwart God's will? Apparently ET'ers think mans or the devils will is stronger than God. - I know Saul/Paul didn't think so and neither do any UR people.
"Why do so many people think that the Bible is only inspired at certain points -  and that  THEY are inspired to pick out which points?"

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Re: Does the Narrow Gate Mentioned by Jesus Rule out Universalism
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2012, 08:34:37 PM »
Good post ded.  Very much the way I understand it too.

I see it as narrow way = Jesus now, new spiritual birth, living in the kingdom, growing in grace and knowledge, righteousness (His), peace, joy.  Dealt with (lovingly disciplined) as a son/daughter, things handled as a "family matter".

 Broad way = destruction of the flesh (carnality and everything that's not of good) in the next age, as through (spiritual) fire, Jesus then.  Still through Him and the cross - every knee, every tongue, "Jesus is Lord". 

Neither should there be vulgar speech, foolish talk, or coarse jesting--all of which are out of character--but rather thanksgiving.  Eph. 5:4  **  Saved 1John 3.2, Eph. 2:8, John 1:12 - Being saved 2Cor. 4:16 2Peter 3:18 - Will be saved 1Peter 1:5 Romans 8:23