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Mickiel:


As I return to visit Tentmaker, it is an honor to be received by some, as one would be welcomed into a home. I was even sent an invitation to preregister, which is likened to receiving a quest invitation to someones home.

You know, when someone welcomes you into their place, you may as well speak those things which you believe and know to be true, while you are there. And this is what strikes my attention to one of Jesus comments in Luke 18:20, " Do not bear False Witness." When I think of False Witness, I think in terms of telling the Truth, not so much in terms of lying. You know, you just give testimony to what you know is the Truth. Perhaps this should be done weather one is welcome or not.

In my visits to many places, one can't help but to notice what people are bearing Witness to. The things they are bring to the table, and what is being digested through their Witness. And what Witness is being thrown from the table. Likened to offering a quest a meal, and they respond by pushing the plate from their presence, far from their minds. In John 3:11, again Jesus tells that  " We Speak that which we Know", and bear Witness to that which we have seen, and you do not receive our Witness. One of my constant request to God is that " I come to KNOW Him", at least let me Know what I am talking about, and believing. Its one thing to hold Knowledge, but its another thing to hold complete confidence in that Knowledge. Because when you bear Witness, confidence will spring forth in that Knowledge, just as weakness would show itself in your words. And this is one personal reason why I must keep a constant refresher course with God, because I hold  constant needs from him. I haven't had that water which if you drink it, you will never thirst again. I haven't drank that yet.

So I understand that I am on a " Diet from God", I only get a little here and there. I sit at tables and view what people are offering in their witness, and I can understand that the meal is just not for me. So if I Speak, I may as well give what has been given to me. And this is one reason why there is not much Unity at many tables, because the Witness is so differing, the meal being offered is pick and choose, and you just have to see what you can eat. Or offer. Whatever attitude you may bring, you most likely will display your table manners when you sit. There is the approach of " Feeding Everybody", or just eating everything that you see. Some even fight at the table, and consider that as their approach to bearing witness, and will tell you its what they have been given to offer. I notice that in many places, the " Warrior Approach to the table of Witness." As I learn table manners, I try not to eat like that anymore. I think it ruins the meal. Titus 1:13 could jack you up and send you off on a direction that could last for years. It is a type of Witness, and it is true, but even truth can be pushed away from your diet, if its not good FOR YOU! I am not getting into that " Severely Reproving" of people - direction anymore. Its not for me, I don't want it on my plate. I can understand severely going against doctrine that people offer, but leave their personage alone.

In Rev.3:14, Jesus is called the " True Witness". And this is what I crave to Know. What was on Jesus mind, as he stated certain things about certain subjects. As he gave his Witness. And that has got to be a root to bearing false witness, just not really knowing what was on Jesus mind when he said things.

And thats why I wish I really knew him, his mind, his reasonings, his mentality behind his witness. To know the Truth, and speak only the Truth.

Peace.



Mickiel:


What then is the greatest form of False Witness?

I believe blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is the greatest False Witness possible.

What is Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit? I never knew this before, but its when you claim to have Gods Holy Spirit, and really you do not. Its when you have laid personal claim to be called and chosen, when you have not. Its when you claim to be anointed with the fruits of the Spirit, and you are not.

Its when you claim to be Gods church, and you are not. Its when you claim to speak for God, or that he has spoken to you, when really neither is really true.

So Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is really a problem that exist among believers and followers of Christ, not unbelievers. These then are the ones who bear false witness, in these the seeds of deception are planted more deeply.

Peace.

arcticmonster2003:
I was doing a similiar thread and Kratos pointed out that there is a difference between those who ignorantly say the wrong things and those who , as he put it willingly serve the enemy. I felt that he offered good testimony that was useful, since I have no real experience in that situation.

Mickiel:

--- Quote from: arcticmonster2003 on August 27, 2007, 02:55:36 PM ---I was doing a similiar thread and Kratos pointed out that there is a difference between those who ignorantly say the wrong things and those who , as he put it willingly serve the enemy. I felt that he offered good testimony that was useful, since I have no real experience in that situation.

--- End quote ---




Well yes,  there is obvious difference between willful and ignorance, God be the judge of that, but a common ground of False Witness is that there is Belief in God that is prevalent in the heart. It is always dangerous when you must go through a core of Belief to unearth deception. It is dangerous because Christ has not laid the foundation that is there.

And in my view, this interesting phenomena, has reared its presence in every belief on earth, including many Universalist. And I would agree, because what makes it interesting, is that most who bear false witness and blaspheme the Holy Spirit, are not aware that they are doing so. It is easy to convince ones self that you have Gods Holy Spirit, and so very easy to believe that you are anointed by him. Its very simple to separate yourself from the world, and believe that it was God who has separated you.

Not telling the truth about your relationship with God is Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, and it is literally a " Bragging Right", for people to exalt and puff up that information, especially in public forums, and inside themselves. It is a pacification of self, and a very absorbing pacification, as well as soothing.

And I believe much of the knowledge that exist on earth about God, has been filtered through this kind of foundation.

Peace.

squint:
Revelation 13:1
And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

3  So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

5  And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

15  And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

Let's not mistake people for the whore that sits in them.

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