Wish I could listen in,Brian. But my speakers broke
There's plenty available at thrift stores etc. A friend of mine got some great ones from his neighbor who was ready to toss 'em.
But here are some of the highlights: The caller was asking about Gehenna. The host said Gehenna could take on two meanings. Either how it was addressed by prophets like Jeremiah, or what it got twisted into by the Pharisees due to Paganism they learned during the Babylon captivity. In other words, the original usage of Gehenna as a metaphor was not one of eternal punishment.
Now here's the question: When Jesus spoke of Gehenna, was he using it as a metaphor the way the prophets of old did? Or was he using it the way the Pharisees of the day were misusing it? Some say it was the way the Pharisees of the day were using it, because that doctrine had been in play for so long, it was the one the people Jesus was addressing, would relate to.
But then I remembered that Jesus quoted Isaiah when speaking about Gehenna, so it was therefore more clear that he was using the original metaphor of the prophets.
The host who was siding with this view, seemed pleased with that little revelation the Holy Spirit provided me with. "Good point!"
So, apparently the misconception of hell (Gehenna) being eternal punishment, was influenced by paganism. And Jesus wasn't using it as an eternal punishment metaphor since he was quoting the prophet Isaiah when talking about it.
To me this is remarkable, that such an orthodox deeply educated Christian scholar like Steve Gregg, is on nationally syndicated radio, saying hell very well may NOT be what everyone has been taught all these years.
This archive for Feb 18 2009 will be active until Feb 18 2010, so there's plenty of time to catch it. I'm trying to skim all his archived shows to form a log of where he discusses hell and universalism.