willieH: Hi Seth...
What kind of "apology" is this, Seth?
You make it sound as if I am "discussing Craig" (as in Gossip)... and furthermore insinuate that I wish to demean him, which I DO NOT! ...I love Craig... and when I say I love you, I mean that as well... Your "apology" is hardly that. It is another vehicle you seek to utilize in this conversation, to demote me.
If APOLOGY was your intent... you would leave it at... "Hey Sparrow -- you're right... I apologize for my part in this" ----> THE END
However that is NOT "the end" is it Seth?
I mean no harm to anyone... but just as one might allude to Hitler in conversation... though we mean no harm to Hitler, ...his example serves as a reference in discussion we might refer to...
THAT kind of referral is NOT the BLOWN OUT OF PROPORTION
commentary within your supposed "apology":
knock it off now.
I love you both.
yes, I know....
we all have our arguments about stuff.
but do it with love.
Sparrow, you are right.
If an apology was your intent Seth, then it could have concluded with the above quote, "Sparrow, you are right", but it DID NOT, did it? It was NOT your intent to apologize... It was your intent to further the negativity as evidenced here:
I apologize to the forum for my reaction to WillieH's words. Had he not invoked Craig, I probably would not have responded, or just said "ok we disagree, thanks for the convo." But when he used Craig to jab at me, it hurt, but not for me, I hurt for Craig.
Spare me the piousness Seth... Try being honest, ...In your finger pointing above, you note the intention of this post, which is NOT apology... it is to try to name me as negative...
I did not "use Craig" to jab at you... I was alluding to the style in which you are conversing with me... is much in the same manner he used... I DID NOT
MENTION ANY details of that "manner", other than the comment about YOU
, noting my beliefs as "WISHING", was sorrowful (and it STILL IS)...
Here is my comment, Please show where I noted any details that might be derogatory to Craig:
willieH: Hi Seth...
There isn't much point in addressing your last post other than this sorrowful portion (have you been studying under Craig?):
This only displays that you might be adopting some of Craig's ways of addressing others... nothing more. Your commentary about my beliefs as a type of "wishing"
is out of line
, and it is THAT for which you should make apology...
He had issues that he even expressed he was working on etc etc. But when WillieH said that, it just reminded me how much I wish Craig the best and I hope he is happier now and in a better place in life, in his emotions etc.
We all have "issues" we are working on brother Seth... I am not without fault... but that has not inhibited you from trying to point them out (whether they are there or not), has it?
Nor is your effort concluded there, as you continue your "apology" agenda
To me, it was just not right to bring someone's name into the conversation when he is not here. That is just gossip and hurtful to him. It was just slanderous and could serve to turn people against Craig who either don't know him or haven't met him. That was just low to me.
Where did I turn anyone "against Craig" in my comment? I was pointing out to YOU
, which you desire to avoid, that your "wishing" comment to me was out of line...
BLOWING out of proportion what I said, by noting me: (1)
a gossip (I made no gossip, just alluded to discussive mannerisms, which are true, and which YOU are using.)(2) slanderer (I said nothing slanderous, just alluded to you studying under Craig" ... what "slander" is made in that? It is your INSINUATIONS which are SLANDEROUS)
... (3) hurtful (you herein step on my neck, to show yourself as "righteous" by this "display" of "great compassion" for Craig, ...by cutting me down in doing so! How is one better than the other, Seth?)...(4)
could serve to turn others against Craig (what a lot of BS... I said nothing that could turn others "against Craig".)(5) Low
... (well, all this is, is a summary of your judgment of a comment which did not contain ALL the details which YOU have endeavored to make PUBLIC)
This is an APOLOGY? Taking me and RAKING me over the coals PUBLICLY? This is YOUR LOVE on display for me, Seth?
But I apologize for my reaction. I reacted to that in the moment and I shouldn't have contributed to the spirit that it created.
I notice how you deflect any FAULT from yourself, by noting "I shouldn't have contributed to THE SPIRIT IT CREATED
How transparent brother. When one apologizes in REPENTENCE... it does not include ANY other one's faults... only your own...
That you apologized by further banging ME against the wall is a pretty HOLLOW apology... a "devil made me do it" apology, naming willieH as said "devil"