So the Bible is clear that the desire TO sin IS a sin.
that would be coveting..right?
well either way im screwed. but wait, while me flesh desires to sin me mind/spirit desires God.
We are either FREE or not, one who contols himself not to commit adultry yet lust's all day long is as much a slave as the one who commits, UNLESS.....
Exactly. The desire to sin is what occurs in the mind. Think about this. If we are braindead, when can we have lust, or any "pull of the flesh." The so-called "pull of the flesh" does not exist without the mind. And we are made to be braindead when we are baptized in Christ's death. Without the mind present in the flesh, the desires aren't there.
yes but wouldnt the ""mind"" consist of that which is above and that which is below? so to speak?
what of this:
Rom 7:25 I thank God--through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, with the mind I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin.
1) the mind, comprising alike the faculties of perceiving and understanding and those of feeling, judging, determining
a) the intellectual faculty, the understanding
b) reason in the narrower sense, as the capacity for spiritual truth, the higher powers of the soul, the faculty of perceiving divine things, of recognising goodness and of hating evil
c) the power of considering and judging soberly, calmly and impartially
2) a particular mode of thinking and judging, i.e thoughts, feelings, purposes, desires
isnt this why the renewing of the mind is so important? if our mind is full of unloving, bad, evil, what will be left after the fire?
im remindeed of these:
Hbr 5:14 But solid food belongs to those who are of full age
, [that is], those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
1 If I should be speaking in the languages of men and of the messengers, yet should have no love, I have become resounding copper or a clanging cymbal.
2 And if I should have prophecy and should be perceiving all secrets and all knowledge, and if I should have all faith, so as to transport mountains, yet have no love, I am nothing.
3 And if ever I should be morselling out all my possessions, and if I should be giving up my body, that I should be boasting, yet may have no love, in nothing do I benefit.
4 Love is patient, is kind. Love is not jealous. Love is not bragging, is not puffed up,
5 is not indecent, is not self-seeking, is not incensed, is not taking account of evil,
6 is not rejoicing in injustice, yet is rejoicing together with the truth,
7 is forgoing all, is believing all, is expecting all, is enduring all.
8 Love is never lapsing: yet, whether prophecies, they will be discarded, or languages, they will cease, or knowledge, it will be discarded.
9 For out of an instalment are we knowing, and out of an instalment are we prophesying.
10 Now whenever maturity may be coming, that which is out of an instalment shall be discarded.11 When I was a minor, I spoke as a minor, I was disposed as a minor, I took account of things as a minor. Yet when I have become a man, I have discarded that which is a minor's.
12 For at present we are observing by means of a mirror, in an enigma, yet then, face to face. At present I know out of an instalment, yet then I shall recognize according as I am recognized also.
13 Yet now are remaining faith, expectation, love -- these three. Yet the greatest of these is love.
for me i know the serpent/satan eats dust.