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Gary Amirault:
http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=bc1ece7f50dea1e94a70650ea6578c98&board=2.0

We are putting up some of your videos on YouTube.com and stumbled into a site that caught my attention. After the video, I went to their site and saw they had a discussion board. Perhaps some of you could visit the boards and make comments.

Here's the video. It is well done. I'm sure it will rock a few people's faith:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=z9pDURu8u74

97531:
This seems to be the hit of the week with Atheists.  So let me pose the questions so we can formulate our answers, this guy says we abandon all rationality so it will be interesting to see how this pans out.

Q1
Why won't God heal amputees?

Sub topics
We believe in answered prayer, so why is a prayer for a raise etc. not have the same effect as a prayer of a starving person.

Q2
Why are there so many starving people in this world?

Q3
Why does God demand the deaths of so many innocent people in the Bible?

Alludes to disobedient teenagers, non-virgins, homosexuals, people working on the Sabbath day

Q4
Why does the bible contain so much anti-scientific nonsense?

Claims of no worldwide flood, Jonah and the fish, man was not created from the dust.

Q5
Why is God such a huge proponent of slavery in the bible?

Q6
Why do bad things happen to good people?

Q7
Why didn't any of Jesus' miracles in the bible leave behind any evidence?

Q8
How do you explain the fact that Jesus has never appeared to you?

Q9
Why would Jesus want you to eat His body and drink His blood?

Q10
Why do Christians get divorced at the same rate as non-Christians.

Kept:
If Im not mistaken Gary was an agnostic at one time. I recall reading his testimony once and will go read it again. I would love to see him interact on the forum Im currently on.

Im sure he is very busy though

thanks for those Seeker, these are things that are such sticklers for athiests

I would love to read what you all come up with.

kept

97531:
It is obvious this guy comes out from a ET background or fundamentalist background.  He appeals to logic and rationality which I believe we have here.  For us God is real but all have discovered this through the spiritual sense and not carnally which is the problem with many of our fundamentalist friends who also have not had their spiritual eyes opened yet.

Q1
Why won't God heal amputees?

I don't know, however we have the last miracle of Jesus when Jesus healed the chopped off ear although only recorded as such in Luke.  Is He able to?  I believe He can.

One good answer was that we are not endowed with the ability to regenerate limbs.  We have inner healing abilities and that is generally unseen.  So many medical reports by doctors of miraculous healings in other areas and we have recent and many testimonies of the dead being raised to life.  A guy 3 days dead raised to life Reinhard Bonke in Nigeria.  Maybe someone will like to get the evidence for that.

As for limbs, we have prosthetics that can be fitted for a semi-normal life. I am not sure if we have evidence for paraplegics being healed.

Q2
Why are there so many starving people in this world?

Jesus was pretty clear in the commission given that it is up to us to feed and take care of the poor, widows and orphans.  God moves when we do, many testimonies of multiplication of limited resources aka food.  This is the responsibility of the have's to the have not's and is not only a Christian thing.

Q6
Why do bad things happen to good people?

Job; how much worse can you get?

Q7
Why didn't any of Jesus' miracles in the bible leave behind any evidence?

I do not understand the question, what sort of evidence is he looking for?

Q8
How do you explain the fact that Jesus has never appeared to you?

This happens mostly in the Spiritual but there are testimonies of physical.

Q9
Why would Jesus want you to eat His body and drink His blood?

This leads me to believe that he was RC wrt the Eucharist.  Again symbolic and cannot be understood carnally.

I do not have answers to the rest, I am married once so I cannot comment on 10.

Common folks, this is not difficult.  Once we have it, I can post a link to the best answers.

Blessings

studier:
Each of these questions use an internal informal fallacy in order for the reader to react in accordance to the questioner instead of reflecting on the reality.

Q1
"Why won't God heal amputees?

Who says He doesn't? I do not know any amputees, and there are many miracles that do not recieve attention. 

Such question already pre-supposes that God won't. It is a fallacy of presupposition. Why won't you stop beating your wife? It presupposes you beat your wife.

Conclusion: Not worth answering.

Q2
Why are there so many starving people in this world?

Despite being omnipotent, God has given authority of earth to mankind to take care of it. He has allowed free-will within the habitation and boundary He has set up for us.

In fact, there is enough food in the US alone, that would feed the entire world, 3 square meals a day without waste. The wickedness and godlessness of mankind, is why there are many starving people in this world. Food is not the problem, and those who are starving are starving because the selfishness of their neighbors.

Q3
Why does God demand the deaths of so many innocent people in the Bible?

This presupposes that there is innocent deaths commanded by God in the Bible. I have studied Scripture and have seen the 'proof' texts of athiests and agnostics who point out God kills children, and women, and so forth. This is a debate within itself. Any rational and intelligent person will understand even 100 years ago, the culture of society was far different than it is today. Even 50 years ago, a fist to fist fight would not get a man jail time for abuse, but today you slap a person across the face you can be in jail for 3 years!

Q4
Why does the bible contain so much anti-scientific nonsense?

Psycology also contains so anti-scientific nonsense, yet it is recognized field of science. Does Scripture say God made the world in seven days? Or does it say it took Seven Olams? An Olam representing a age or period of time with a distinct beginning and end. Science cannot even prove how earth was made, because science needs to be observable, therefore everything concerning creation whether scientific or theological, is theory.

Q5
Why is God such a huge proponent of slavery in the bible?

This question again presupposes God is in favor of slavery. Culture was different. Even today, a man who makes $4 an hour, even though he is being paid for his work, is literally a slave to it. Slavery is perception, not reality. There is good and bad examples in history, the anti-slavery view is in view of the unethical European slave trade.

Q6
Why do bad things happen to good people?

Ecclesiastes says it does. King Solomon wrote this far before this man came to this question. The rain falls on the good and evil a like, there is nothing new unders the sun. The circumstances of life may seem evil, but the good man is at peace in his heart.

Q7
Why didn't any of Jesus' miracles in the bible leave behind any evidence?

Irrelevant. There are many things that don't have physical evidence that happened in the past, which even scientists and historians know happened. The reports of events are considered evidence of the events. So guess what, the gospels are sufficient evidence that Jesus performed miracles.

Q8
How do you explain the fact that Jesus has never appeared to you?

He is making an emotional appeal, another fallacy. He is telling us to be rational and intelligent people, but now he is working on your fear of abandonment. How do I explain the fact Jesus never appeared to me? I can't, because He came to me when I was 4 years old, in physical form. I touched His hands and He touched my face and saved me from sexual abuse. At age 18, He physically sat next to my bed talking to me about the cult which brought a crisis of faith, only to show comfort me that He is the Truth, and that He would never leave me nor forsake me for anything. Etc.

Q9
Why would Jesus want you to eat His body and drink His blood?

He is again appealing to emotion. How disgusting does it sound to eat His body and drink His blood. Of course, he is specifically addressing a tradition which is not actually in Scripture which says the crackers and wine actually become His body and His blood. The reality is that it is a metaphor, a symbolic gesture of something deeper on an emotional, intellectual, spiritual, philosophical side. It was never a literal interpretation. (This guy says he is rational).

Q10
Why do Christians get divorced at the same rate as non-Christians.

Presupposing that all who claim to be Christian, are in fact Christ followers, then we must accept the reason they get divorced at the same rate is because we all make mistakes.

The author actually brought this question up in relation to 'let no man put assunder', and yet they are. He forgets God allowed divorce in Scripture, He just detestes it.

This comes back to our freedom of will, to make the right and good choices and many do not and suffer the consequences of their actions.

However, this presupposes that all who claim to be Christian ,are in fact Christ followers. How many true Christians get divorced? I don't know, can't measure the heart to know.

This man put together a series of arguements which were meant to lead to one conclusion. The way he phrases the questions and the order they appear are meant to create a sense of distrust in God and a sense of faithlessness. He is preparing for this conclusion that all men who believe in God, are delusional. He suggests only abnormal people believe in a God. A recent survey done records that as much as 86% of the world believes in a 'greater power' or 'Spirit' or 'God' or 'gods'. Of the 14% half are not sure, that leaves 7% of the world which absolutely believes in no god, force or spirit. This man believes that 93% of the mankind is delusional! Has anyone done a study on the word, "Normal".

Normal :

1. conforming to the standard or the common type; usual; not abnormal; regular; natural. 
2. serving to establish a standard. 
3.
a. approximately average in any psychological trait, as intelligence, personality, or emotional adjustment. 
b. free from any mental disorder; sane. 
 
By the definition of Normal, that 7% are actually the delusional ones, and that means they are the ones insane. ;)

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