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Re: Who lives - who dies?
« Reply #250 on: November 12, 2009, 11:31:20 PM »
 :cloud9: AMEN........the tongues of Babylon are being "silenced", because that which is perfect has come, is come, and is coming NOW, and we are hearing the Voice of many waters instead. Rejoicing with you!  :boogie: :Egyptdance2: :myahoo: :angel4: :girlangel: Father, we give You praise this day, for You are worthy. Blessings....
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Re: Who lives - who dies?
« Reply #251 on: November 13, 2009, 07:26:05 AM »
Psalm 91:1
He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.


"in the secret place"
H5643
סתרה    סתר
sêther  sithrâh
say'-ther, sith-raw'
From H5641; a cover (in a good or a bad, a literal or a figurative sense): - backbiting, covering, covert, X disguise [-th], hiding place, privily, protection, secret (-ly, place).


The secret place of the most High is a tabernacle, the pavilion of God,  a place where we can dwell and be safe.

4He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust:..

"wings"
H3671
כּנף
kânâph
kaw-nawf'
From H3670; an edge or extremity; specifically (of a bird or army) a wing, (of a garment or bed clothing) a flap, (of the earth) a quarter, (of a building) a pinnacle: -  + bird, border, corner, end, feather [-ed], X flying, + (one an-) other, overspreading, X quarters, skirt, X sort, uttermost part, wing ([-ed]).


Surely, this was the dwelling place of the Lord Jesus when he walked this earth.  Satan tried to tempt him out of this secret place with all the riches and power of the world.  Satan tried to tempt him to test God by leaving that safe place, the pavilion of God.

Luke 4:9
And he brought him to Jerusalem, and set him on a pinnacle of the temple, and said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down from hence:

10For it is written, He shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee:
[Psa 91]


The light is hidden by the darkness.  What a concept, Cardinal!  We always tend to think of light illuminating darkness, but the darkness plays its part, too,---to hide, conceal, that which is too precious for the world.

Until the time of the revealing, he...

...[shall abide]"under the shadow" [of the Almighty]

H6751
צלל
tsâlal
tsaw-lal'
A primitive root (rather identical with H6749 through the idea of hovering over (compare H6754)); to shade, as twilight or an opaque object: - begin to be dark, shadowing.



Psalm 27:5
For in the time of trouble he shall hide me in his pavilion: in the secret of his tabernacle shall he hide me; he shall set me up upon a rock.

6And now shall mine head be lifted up above mine enemies round about me: therefore will I offer in his tabernacle sacrifices of joy; I will sing, yea, I will sing praises unto the LORD.

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Re: Who lives - who dies?
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Re: Who lives - who dies?
« Reply #253 on: November 13, 2009, 09:21:22 PM »
 :cloud9: Well, my cryptic friend, this time you have stumped me. What's up with the mouse, LOL? Blessings...
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« Reply #254 on: November 14, 2009, 04:08:40 AM »


:cloud9: Well, my cryptic friend, this time you have stumped me. What's up with the mouse, LOL? Blessings...

The word speaks of sowing and those that listen, reap; an interdependent action. :Book:

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Re: Who lives - who dies?
« Reply #255 on: November 16, 2009, 01:23:39 AM »
 :cloud9: A post I pulled from Robert Torango's FB site, another Kingdom minister.....long, but worth the read. Blessings..... :thumbsup:
                                                           Part 1

THE HOUSE THAT GOD BUILT
Volume 2, Chapter 4
The Cell
A Celebration of the Feast of Tabernacles


Acts 7:44-50

Our forefathers had the tent (tabernacle) of witness in the wilderness, even as He Who directed Moses to make it had ordered, according to the pattern and model he had seen. [Ex 25:9-40.]
Our forefathers in turn brought it [this tent of witness] in [with them into the land] with Joshua when they dispossessed the nations which God drove out before the face of our forefathers. [So it remained here] until the time of David, [Deut 32:49; Josh 3:14-17.]
Who found grace (favor and spiritual blessing) in the sight of God and prayed that he might be allowed to find a dwelling place for the God of Jacob. [2 Sam 7:8-16; Ps 132:1-5.]
But it was Solomon who built a house for Him. [1 Kings 6.]
However, the Most High does not dwell in houses and temples made with hands; as the prophet says, [Isa 66:1,2.]
Heaven [is] My throne, and earth the footstool for My feet. What [kind of] house can you build for Me, says the Lord, or what is the place in which I can rest?
Was it not My hand that made all these things? [Isa 66:1,2.] AMP

Heb 8:1-2
Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;
A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle , which the Lord pitched, and not man. KJV

Heb 8:5
Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle : for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.
KJV

Heb 9:11
But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle , not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building; KJV

Rev 21:3
And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. KJV

The study of The House That God Built is, in all actuality, a study of the experience of the Feast of Tabernacles. From the singular moment in the Garden of Eden, when God had finalized all of His creative process of forming the universe and the inhabitants of the earth, He then proceeded to put His hand to the Center Piece of creation, mankind. In an astounding act of unfeigned love, God broke rank with His previous method of creating the worlds and all that is therein, for with these He spoke them into existence. But, with the creation of mankind, He performed an intimate forming of Adam with His own hands, lowering Himself into the earth, by which God lovingly humbled Himself to form a creature out of the very dust (earthly composition) of the ground, actually getting His hands dusty in the process.

Think about it! The prior days of creation were a formal speaking into existence, but with the creature called MAN, God mingled His creative substance with the earthly chemistry of elements and compounds and built a tabernacle of earth and water with the utmost care and concern to every microscopic detail. Then, in an even more devastating act of intimacy, He put His divine lips to the creatures mouth and breathed into this House His own spirit, indwelling this tent of cells and organs with His own essence, making man a "living soul."

No love story known to man can compare with this singular act of entwinement of God with mankind. When I say that God built man, I mean that God used the elements of the natural world and compounded them together to build Adam one cell at a time, until there stood before Him a tabernacle made up of over 100 Trillion cells, all interconnected with one another and committed to one another to form an organism of such unity and oneness that the host of heaven gasped over its symphonic symmetry.

Each part of this tabernacle lent its structure and function to the whole in such unyielding resolve that it moved as though it was only one part. In fact, this was a tabernacle made up of trillions of "tabernacles" which lived and functioned with such sameness of purpose and action that it did indeed exist as one whole and complete Tabernacle. In short, God formed an organism that was a living, breathing Feast of Tabernacles.

When God spoke to Moses and instructed him concerning the structure and function of the earthly Tabernacle, the "house of witness", He instructed Moses to "build" it in the same pattern as God built the first Tabernacle, Adam. This Tabernacle involved a structure with an outer wall of curtains which formed the outer court, then a smaller tent which comprised the Holy Place and within that structure a veiled partition which comprised the Holiest of Holies.

Three compartments of specific measurements which contained specific elements that would be used for the function of each compartment in particular, but with a continuity of function between all three compartments that connected them together, from the brazen altar in the outer court, to the candlestick and the shewbread table in the holy place, to the ark of the covenant inside the holiest of all.

The physical tabernacle of Moses represented the "pattern" of the cellular makeup of mankind, which foundationally is the human cell, the smallest unit of life. As the tabernacle of Moses had three compartments, so the human cell has three compartments. Not to be thought of as strange, since the same One that instructed Moses in the Mount concerning the pattern of the tabernacle in the wilderness, is the same Creator God that formed the human cell in building Adam.

So it is, that the human cell also has an outer wall, which comprises the outer court of the cell, known as the "cytoplasm". Then, in a startling illustration of similarity with the Tabernacle shown to Moses, there is found a second compartment which comprises the holy place of the cell, the Nucleus. Inside the Nucleus, there is a third compartment of the cell which comprises the "holiest of all" of the cell, the Nucleolus.

So, we find that mankind is made up of the exact pattern of cellular structure as the Tabernacle of Moses. HOWEVER, the cell is not patterned after the Tabernacle of Moses, but the cell is the original pattern from which Moses built the Tabernacle! Our study of the human cell and the complex organism that the cells form in our human body is a study that corresponds to the True Tabernacle, which no man could pitch, but it is the House that the living God has chosen to make His abode, the House of God.

YOU, my dear friends, are the very House of God! You are more than flesh and blood, a brain and a heart, you are the very dwelling place of the Most High Lord God, the residence of the Creator of all things. Oh my! Can you believe that? This is why the scriptures have been preserved through the ages to be handed down to this present generation. Only THIS generation could have possibly known of the existence of such a pattern of 3s between the Tabernacle in the wilderness and the Tabernacle of the garden. No other generation could have "seen" the human cellular pattern until our time of technology, which has given us "eyes" to actually look microscopically into a pattern that had existed from our very biological beginnings, but which no human eye could bear witness to until our lifetime.

Do you see the significance of such a thing? The prophetic declarations that have come forth concerning our present time as it relates to the plan of the ages is found to be absolutely true by reason of the correlating phenomenon of our microscopic technology, revealing the hidden mysteries of God's creative blueprint in making mankind, which gives rise to a chorus of glorious affirmations that we are INDEED the House that God built and we are also the House that God is filling with His glory! As His presence filled the Temple in ancient Israel, even so is the spirit of the Lord filling our physical temple with His own glorious Self! We have a greater witness than the prophets of old. We have the original pattern by which God began this wondrous journey from the earthiness of fallen man to the glorious uprising of the Son of man.

Even as Israel was given the pattern of the Tabernacle and the function of the priesthood within that structure, they were then given instructions on the keeping of yearly Festivals, or Feasts. There were 3 of these Feasts that were to be celebrated each year, again corresponding to the 3 compartments and functions of the Tabernacle.

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The first Feast to be observed was the Feast of Passover. This had a significance of Israel's time of slavery in Egypt, when God instructed them to apply the blood of a sacrifice over the door posts of each home so the death angel would "Pass Over" that house in Egypt. This first Feast is directly connected to the functions of the priestly duties in the Outer Court of the Tabernacle. No one knows the exact measure of a "cubit" but a cubit is generally believed to be about 18 inches, or 1 feet. If this is true, the dimensions of the outer court were approximately 150 feet long and 75 feet wide. The wall of the outer court was approximately 7 feet high.

As in all things pertaining to God and His plan, everything is designed specifically by the Grand Architect to fulfill a certain function and purpose. Indeed, as the natural things of this world are structured in such a way as to enhance the "function" of those earthly elements, the structure of all things in Christ are spiritually designed to enhance the "function" of these spiritual elements.

In this case, the enclosure of the outer court served to keep intruders from wandering into the court. It is important to understand that the outer court was just as holy to the Lord as the inner chamber, as is seen in the very title of the inner chamber, THE HOLY OF HOLIES.

All of the Tabernacle is holy unto the Lord and is to be kept holy and reserved for the service of the priesthood. In applying this to our present walk in the Lord, we must keep in mind that just because we have been chosen to be aware of and a participator of "deeper truths", we must never lose the sight that all realms of understanding in Christ are HOLY UNTO THE LORD!

If a person is presently walking in the understanding of Passover, or a basic salvation experience, it is just as important to the Father for them to celebrate that Feast as it is for us to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles. The inner chamber of the Tabernacle is the "Holiest" of all other partitions of the structure and is the source of all Holiness that is found elsewhere in the entire structure.

So, the outer wall of the court is a barrier to keep out those that have no purpose of ministry in the Tabernacle. The court of the Tabernacle was not a place to have a casual gathering of folks, but it was to be a place of sacrifice and cleansing for the sins of Israel. In order for anyone to have access to the Court of the Sanctuary, they had to come to offer worship in the form of a sacrifice. They gained access to the Court by the East Gate, a 30 ft wide opening, veiled with a screen of fine, twisted linen.

Upon entering through the screen, they came to the Altar of Burnt Offering. In the Outer Court, there were only 2 elements of service, the Altar of Burnt Offering and the Laver. The rest of the Court was an open area, designed very simply and spaciously. Even so, the experience of the Feast of Passover has a very simple, but profound message. While we were yet sinners, Christ died for us!

Under the Law, there were many sacrifices offered for redemption, involving many different types of sins. There were meat offerings, meal offerings, and grain offerings. But, in Christ, we are made clean and righteous by His single sacrifice, which has been given for all mankind. As by one man we were born into sin, also by one Man we are freed from the bondage and debt of that original sin nature. Since Adam infected every man and woman after him, even so, Jesus the Christ of God has redeemed every man after Him AND before Him, even those that were under the law or lived without the law, He has left no man out from His great salvation plan. (Romans 5:12-15)

When someone needed to offer a sacrifice to God, the offering was brought through the gate of the court and the priest performed the priestly duty of sacrifice and washing, which is symbolic of our first experience with Christ as a recognition of His having offered Himself for us, not just in death at the cross, but also in lowering Himself to our lowly stature of mankind, (or, a kind of man), taking on the same form and fashion as us.

Jesus has been forever linked to us through His birth into this earthly dimension, becoming our "Elder Brother" in the flesh and in the spirit. He is our Kinsman, or our own Kind. Through Passover, the blood of Christ is applied to our "house", as He has become the propitiation for our sins. He has covered us with His own sacrificial life and by reason of that, death will "Passover" us and we will live eternally by reason of His own eternal life. Our journey begins in the outer court, but does not stop there. We must go through the outer court, enter into the Holy Place and then step into the Holiest of Holies, a journey that is acting itself out in each individual life that God has given life unto.

Every man will know Him through an experiential journey from acknowledging His Sacrificial Life for us, by the shedding of His Blood (Life) and then onto the partaking of His Bread of Life and the drinking of His Wine (Blood-Life) and then on to an indwelling of His Nature and Character. For those that have been chosen by Him, they will be a kind of first-fruit of this journey that all men will undertake, as the sons of God appropriate the elements of salvation into their being, a company of chosen vessels that have been selected by God from before the foundations of the world to be the express image of their Father in the earth.

The sons of God are the first to completely "apprehend that for which they have been apprehended." As the Apostle Paul so wonderfully expressed this aggressive action of the chosen ones inserted below, it illustrates the seriousness of our time in the plan of God.

Phil 3:12-14
Not that I have now attained [this ideal], or have already been made perfect, but I press on to lay hold of (grasp) and make my own, that for which Christ Jesus (the Messiah) has laid hold of me and made me His own.
I do not consider, brethren, that I have captured and made it my own [yet]; but one thing I do [it is my one aspiration]: forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead,
I press on toward the goal to win the [supreme and heavenly] prize to which God in Christ Jesus is calling us upward.
AMP

This handpicked company of "Early Fruit Sons" are given the spiritual attire of priests and kings, following in the footsteps of their Elder Brother, Jesus Christ, their High Priest after the order of Melchizedek. In the Tabernacle of Moses, the blood that was shed at the Brazen Altar was then taken into the Holy Place and then into the Holiest of Holies, a direct blood line from the sacrifice of the outer court into the inner sanctum of the Holiest of All.

Heb 10:19-20
Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh; KJV

Our experience in Christ does not end at the outer court experience of salvation, nor does it end at the Holy Place experience of the infilling of the spirit, but all men will enter into the Holiest of Holies by reason of the Life of Jesus Christ, who has made an entrance for us into the intimacy of the Father's glory. Our experience must entail both Passover and Pentecost before we can celebrate the true abundance of the Feast of Tabernacles.

Many are gaining the knowledge of the Feast of Ingathering, but knowledge alone will not give us entrance, we must have on our priestly garments to enter therein, which come from the outer court and the Holy Place experiences. Anyone trying to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles without the 2 prior experiences are celebrating a false Feast! We cannot have the experience of just one feast, or two feasts, but we must be celebrants of all 3 Feasts in order to get the full benefits of those Feasts.

The 3 Feasts were instituted by God to correspond with the agricultural seasons of the year for Israel. Seed was to be planted, the field was to be cultivated and watered, then the final stage was to harvest the fruit from the field. If the planting were left off, there would be no harvest. If the field were not cultivated, there would be no harvest. In order to participate in the harvesting of the field, there must needs be a planting and a cultivating of the field.

As full grown sons of God, we are now participating in all 3 phases of the plan of God. We do not lack in any element of the 3 Feasts. I pray that we realize the POWER of the Third Dimension of experiencing the Life of Christ. There is true power in each of the 3 Feasts of the plan of God. Regardless of how profane men have celebrated the Feasts of Passover and Pentecost, and now the profanity reaches into the celebration of the Feast of Tabernacles, we should still keep in mind that God has a pure celebration of salvation, a pure celebration of the manifestation of the Holy Spirit and a pure celebration of the Feast of Tabernacles.

Speaking for my wife, Charlotte, and myself, we still minister salvation to all that are ready to come to Christ at the call of His spirit. We still minister the fullness of the spirit, manifesting itself in gifts and offices of the spirit to the Body of Christ. I still speak in tongues, although some have come to the conclusion that Tongues should not be manifested in the "deeper" gatherings.

In my humble opinion, one does not necessarily have to speak in tongues to be filled with the spirit, but one should not consciously try NOT to speak in tongues just to prove a point. If tongues are to cease, they will cease on their own, without our helping them. I still move in a prophetic realm, still pray for the sick and have faith they will recover. I still preach the Word at every opportunity and many other various gifts and callings of the spirit.

In other words, I am still yielding to the moving of the Spirit of God, which will give rise to every aspect of the 3 Feast experiences in our midst if we leave our own carnal minds out of the equation and let God have His way.

Pentecost is a much more complex Feast than Passover. Passover deals with the simplicity of Jesus Christ giving His life for the world. We confess Him as our Savior and receive His sacrifice and then make Him Lord of our heart. It is a Feast of Unleavened Bread, pure Truth and pure God. The reconciling of the world to God by the life, death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ is complete and cannot be added to nor taken away from. It is a pure act of God, not requiring our participation or permission. You are not your own, you have been bought with a price, lock, stock and barrel. You do not have to BELIEVE in the reconciliation of Christ, it simply IS!

He did not reconcile us by taking an inventory of our worthiness for such an act, it is a GIFT of God, not to be paid back by our woeful attempts at being worthy of such a prize. You are not worthy of it and never will be worthy of it. It is an unmerited favor of God upon all of mankind. He reconciled you BEFORE the original sin was ever instigated! What a grand Mystery of Redemption! If the salvation of all men were a horse race, we would say that God fixed the race, it is a sure thing, bet on all men being saved because there is no other possible outcome! Glory to His Name. Before Adam ever sinned, before the corruption of such an act was ever passed on to all children of Adam, God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself. (2 Cor. 5:18-21; Eph. 1:4; Heb. 4:3; Heb 9:24-28; 1 Peter 1:18-20; Rev 13:8)Such is the POWER of the Feast of Passover and the shedding of the blood of Christ Jesus.

Pentecost is a Feast of great power and manifestation and corresponds with the realm of the Candlestick and Shewbread. It is a Feast with Leaven, however, and included with the immense power and manifestation of God's spirit moving upon flesh, we still see the carnal, religious minds of men operating side by side with the pure gift realm of the spirit.

False prophets and realms of psychic power coexist in the ministry of Pentecost, for the gifts of this Feast are without repentance. This means that God will not withdraw Himself from the pure hearts of the people of God, even speaking through an unclean vessel in order to bless and heal His believers. Along with true prophets there stands the prophets of Baal, the merchandisers and conmen are found in this feast, bringing shame upon the Feast by their wanton lust for money and controlling power.

However, in spite of the leaven of carnal flesh, in the midst of this Great Feast of spiritual manifestation, God has shown His mighty power and love to the world. So much so, that over the past 100 years the world has been witness to a mighty move of God that has covered the entire World in its reality.

Miraculous healings, physical demonstrations of God taking control of the faculties of men and women have witnessed to the fact that there is something within man that is beyond their own abilities. It is a forerunner for the Feast of Tabernacles and one should not discard the Holy Feast of Pentecost simply because of the corruption found within it. The Apostle Paul made a clear distinction between just preaching a doctrine and preaching with the power of God.

1 Cor 2:1-5
And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God.
For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling.
And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God. KJV

Paul realized that the saints of God at Corinth needed to know the power of God that was resident in the Gospel of Christ. It is a power that is able to change a person's mind AND heart, to bring transformation to their being and give Life to them, instead of the deadness of philosophical meanderings. Pentecost has true POWER and it is a Feast of supernatural moving of the spirit. Pentecost is similar to the times of the Old Testament when true Prophets of the Lord walked the earth. These were not men dressed in expensive attire, with gargantuan egos, as you see in the so-called prophets of the modern day TV driven mega-church arena.
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                                                          Part 3


Today, people are clamoring over men and women that have set themselves up as Bishops and Apostles, true celebrities of a show-time church system that preys upon the human nature to worship something tangible and fleshly, rather than the invisible God. Vast arenas are filled with enchanted believers, childish and immature, hoping to bask in the presence of these professional speakers, much like the attendees of a Rock Concert with adoring fans pressing to the front just to get a glimpse of the stars of the show. It is indeed, all a show.

This movement is made up of fluff and personality, music driven, flamboyant personalities, orchestrating soulish encounters with the requisite hysteria of a crowd energized by the soulish ministry of true showbiz genius. It is a show made for TV and for the viewing pleasure of the masses. However, it is not the true POWER of the Feast of Pentecost. It is a mutation of flesh and soul, which appeals to the lower expectations of a starved Christian community.

How I long for the pure flow of Pentecost to be presented to the Church today. Latter Rain was a movement that came on the scene in the late 1940's and early 1950's with anointed true prophets that prophesied as the spirit gave utterance. Pure and powerful in its beginnings, this element of Pentecost brought a purity back into the ranks of Pentecostals, involving simple, humble men and women of God yielding to the spirit with tremendous unity of faith and purpose.

Spirit-led services infused the congregations with a transforming flow of worship and word, expressed out of a multitude of willing vessels that released the reservoir of blessings in Christ Jesus, resulting in stupendous healings and supernatural signs and wonders.

Then, man took control and the glory receded from the gatherings. Now, we are on the brink of another Feast shining the first rays of glory upon our generation, giving us glimpses into an order and rank of kingly authority and priestly service that gives rise to a vision of God entwining His divine substance with the 3 fold structure of man, body-soul-spirit in such a way as to form a New Man and a new creature of which heaven and earth has never seen.

After we have experienced the simplicity of Passover and the power and glory of Pentecost, we then enter into the celebration of the New Man in Christ, an experience which transforms all the prior elements of the Feasts into a more excellent ministry of the True Figures which all other gifts and offices represent.

Once we fully enter the Feast of Tabernacles, we then start to see the methodology of the spirit of Christ transform into a more perfect manifestation, taking us to a place in the Lord where all things are in our hands, authority and wisdom infuse us, we see with new eyes of understanding, discerning the needs of the people and moving in divine order to meet those needs.

This is a realm that no man is operating in fully at this time, but we have begun to be taught of the spirit concerning this dimension of life and glory. We have the types and shadows of the scriptures to guide us, but we must know that the actual True Figures themselves are so much more glorious than the lower elements of service themselves as to not be compared when the True Figures manifest in our midst.

Our finite minds cannot comprehend such an explosion of spirit-life as is waiting for us that are ordained to come into such a realm. The huge audiences of the past ministries of the Salvation message are not to be compared to this manifestation of the sons of God. Billy Graham, D. L. Moody, Billy Sunday and all the other giants of Passover all reached multitudes with the message of salvation, but the ministry of the 3rd Day of Christ will not hold Crusades in football stadiums or appear on the TBN television network. Earthly words will not suffice when God begins the culmination of the ages. The WORD will go forth, not in word only, but in SOUND!

Rom 10:17-18
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.

1 Cor 15:52
In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound , and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Rev 1:13-15
And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

Rev 8:6
And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound .

Rev 10:7
But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound , the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

You can spend all of your time learning the WORDS of the Kingdom message, but if you don't have the SOUND of the Word, your voice will be as tinkling cymbals and sounding brass. The SOUND of the message is what makes the difference between a dead word and a living word.

The SOUND of the spirit is not learned by reading and memorizing scriptures, it is an element of our existence that is brought about by fiery burnings, standing in the midst of the furnace of trials and cleansing and letting the SOUND of His voice be engraved upon our spiritual DNA.

This sound comes out of hell, my friends! This ministry comes out of the dreaded dealings of a jealous God, a place of judgment and correction which gives us no relief until that certain sound is formed in us. Word alone will not perform the work of the Feast of Tabernacles, no preacher will ever preach well enough for this Feast to be one of Word and human expression.

There is a Voice within us that is waiting to sound forth its clarion call, a Trumpet fashioned by God that no Angelic host can sound. It can only be sounded by a certain kind of God-man, a new species of creature that is waiting to be revealed and heard from. Only a Seventh Day Son can blow the trumpet that will usher in the Seventh Day of God's plan of the ages.

Out of the fiery forging of the presence of God comes a company of saviors, kings and priests, servants and sons, without earthly pedigree, unknown and unqualified according to the credentials of organized religion, they are qualified by a higher Power, receiving their credentials by being the first fruits OF the First Fruit of God raised from amongst the dead, approved by the spirit, pre-ordained, predestinated to be found in His image and likeness. The world has never seen anything like them, except in one Man, Jesus Christ.

Because He was not meant to be a singular Seed of Promise, God has been letting the ages unfold to reveal the glorious fact that this Seed was not to dwell alone, but out of that Life-Giving Seed, the earth has been seeded with His divine genetic code and now we are living in the time of the harvesting of that Seed, now found in the many seeds of sons. We bear His genetic marker, dear ones! We cannot deny Him, for we would be denying our most foundational self. We are IN HIM and He is IN US, a literal celebration of the Oneness of Tabernacles.

We are experiencing the True Figure of AT-ONE-MENT, God tabernacling with man! Oh, but be sure to know that this tabernacling is not to be understood in the same old understanding that the church has been living in, singing "Jesus Is In My Heart" but then preaching about Him being "out there" somewhere. I am talking about a full embodiment of the God Head in our being. As in the days of the Tabernacle of Moses, Christ has been abiding behind the veil of our understanding, known to be abiding there but only seen and manifested in rare occasions.

Ah, but know this one thing beloved of the Lord, it is the time for the fullness of God to fill His House with His glory! That is why Tabernacles is so important for us and all mankind, for it is the time that the Shekinah Glory of God is no longer confined to an inner place of veils and curtains. It is now ready to be revealed in us with all of its glorious beauty and radiance, until the Holy Place and the Outer Court is filled with the holy presence of the Father. Then, there will be only ONE dwelling place, not 3 separate chambers, but one glorious tabernacle filled with the substance of God's eternal spirit.

For those of us that believe that there will be a generation that will not go to the grave, but will cross over into this Feast of Tabernacles in their mortal body and be transformed and transfigured into a state of incorruptibility and a body of immortality, this is what that transformation will entail.

A swallowing up of the outer court and the Holy Place into the glory of the Holiest of Holies, which in the case of our study of the human body, it is the process of the spirit of the Lord releasing in our physical body a spiritual life that will create a new body, not flesh and blood as it is right now, but a body that is eternal, immortal in every sense. As it is in all truth concerning Christ and His plan of the ages, we must see the divine order of the progression of change throughout God's plan as given through the holy scriptures.

It is plain through studying the scriptures that the final stage of this great transformation of mankind is not an action that comes from the external and then works its way to the internal. The church is backwards in their understanding concerning the relationship that the Father has with His creation. The church thinks God is outside of them, even going so far as depicting Jesus as being off in outer space somewhere, biding His time until He comes to earth to set up His kingdom. By reason of this external perspective on Gods presence, they live and worship as though Jesus is off somewhere and only makes some kind of special engagement visitations to the believers, then goes away until another time of an external visitation.

The Truth is that He is not outside of us, He is dwelling, living, abiding, moving, blessing, lifting, healing, restoring, speaking from INSIDE of us! He has pitched His tent and we are that Tent! For anyone that has ever thought they heard an external voice of God speak to them, I want you to know that the Voice you heard was not external, it was internal, so real and so thunderous to your being that it seemed as though it was coming from an external source.

This kind of internal thunder of God's voice is so intimate, so indwelling that it fills our whole being with the SOUND of it. It is the ultimate in "Surround Sound", resounding to us from all directions, but emanating from a secret place of the Most High, deep within our being. The blessings in our lives flows from the inside out. Our outer man and the state and condition of our external life in this world is affected and blessed by the coming together of our inner man and the Christ that dwells within. Our inner man must be made whole so that our outer man will be whole.

We are as complex in our makeup as the Feasts of God's plan are complex in their makeup. The interplay between the distinct elements that make up our structure as the House of God is what causes us to either be divided and dual in our walk in God, or to be unified with God's plan and purpose for our lives and to live peacefully and gracefully with God and man.

Our spirit is wooing our soul to be married to it. Our soul is positioned in the middle between our spiritual man and our carnal man. The carnal man is constantly trying to draw our soul into its reasoning and actions, which the soul gives a certain soulish anointing and life to. Our spirit is constantly drawing the soul back into communion with Christ and the life of God.

In the times of the Feast of Tabernacles, our spirit will become one with our soul, which will in turn bring our body under the dominion of the marriage union of our heart and mind. Incorruptibility will be accomplished FIRST in the marriage and union of our spirit and soul, causing an inner wholeness from the union of our spirit with the spirit of Christ and then the subsequent union of our spirit in Christ with our soul, which will then illuminate our whole man with the incorruptible nature of the Father, which will then change our mortal body and fashion it like unto His own glorious Body. A chain reaction of nuclear fusion that will result in a New Creature.

To be continued..

By Robert D Torango
                                 
"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor

Offline Raggedy Anne

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Re: Who lives - who dies?
« Reply #258 on: November 16, 2009, 02:07:26 AM »
Cardinal,

Would it be possible for you to give this it's own thread by the title "The House That God Built" by Robert Torango so that it is easier to find and notice.

I think that would be great.  That way, when/if Bob posts another excerpt from his book, we can add it on and it will keep this current thread from being overly long.

Just a friendly suggestion......

Anne
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« Reply #259 on: November 17, 2009, 09:50:41 AM »
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Ah, but know this one thing beloved of the Lord, it is the time for the fullness of God to fill His House with His glory! That is why Tabernacles is so important for us and all mankind, for it is the time that the Shekinah Glory of God is no longer confined to an inner place of veils and curtains. It is now ready to be revealed in us with all of its glorious beauty and radiance, until the Holy Place and the Outer Court is filled with the holy presence of the Father. Then, there will be only ONE dwelling place, not 3 separate chambers, but one glorious tabernacle filled with the substance of God's eternal spirit.



17And they brought in the ark of the LORD, and set it in his place, in the midst of the tabernacle that David had pitched for it: and David offered burnt offerings and peace offerings before the LORD.

--2Sam 6


11In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old:

13Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that the plowman shall overtake the reaper, and the treader of grapes him that soweth seed; and the mountains shall drop sweet wine, and all the hills shall melt.

--Amos 9



14And David danced before the LORD with all his might; and David was girded with a linen ephod.

 15So David and all the house of Israel brought up the ark of the LORD with shouting, and with the sound of the trumpet.


--2 Sam 6





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« Reply #260 on: November 19, 2009, 04:20:20 AM »
1The earth is the LORD's, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein.

 2For he hath founded it upon the seas, and established it upon the floods.

 3Who shall ascend into the hill of the LORD? or who shall stand in his holy place?

 4He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully.

 5He shall receive the blessing from the LORD, and righteousness from the God of his salvation.

 6This is the generation of them that seek him, that seek thy face, O Jacob. Selah.

 7Lift up your heads, O ye gates; and be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in.

 8Who is this King of glory? The LORD strong and mighty, the LORD mighty in battle.

 9Lift up your heads, O ye gates; even lift them up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in.

 10Who is this King of glory? The LORD of hosts, he is the King of glory. Selah.

--Psa 24