But then, jabcat, aren't you reading an awful lot into what is not written or given to us to know in this lifetime?
I accept the conjecture that maybe in the next life there is another chance; certainly there is much more to come that we simply aren't told about. But to teach that certain things will happen/are true that simply are not explicity stated ... that bothers me.
I just think we have to be so, so careful and on guard that our beliefs come from what scripture says; we should never work it backward, starting with "our" beliefs and then interpreting scripture from there
I don't think this is judgmental in the least. We should be cautious about what we teach. We should know, and be able to support what we teach. With that said,I believe Jab has done his homework. I believe he has come to accept in his spirit something that can't be worked out 100% through scriptures. We can say that for every view of judgment. I also see things a bit differently than your last sentence. I used to see it that way. But, I am one of my Saviors sheep and I can hear his voice. Today there are things that I accept in my spirit as truth, yet I can't completely work it out from a scriptural standpoint. My relationship isn't limited to the scriptures but includes and encompasses Holy Spirit revelation. With that said, I don't believe everything revealed to me is meant for everyone, nor do I believe everything revealed to you is for everyone.
Today, I am very careful about what I do teach. It's why I take an agnostic stance on the judgment of mankind. With that said, I have a great hope in my spirit in UR (or as you like to say US) :)
Well, I do believe it can be "worked out" in the scriptures, and I believe it's often shown. I believe the issue is, we're all veiled to varying extents, until it's our time to see more clearly. So often when the clear scriptures are presented, we can only see them through our own veil, unless and until the Holy Spirit illuminates them within us. Until that time, we can read right over and not be affected by the things that are hidden in plain sight. Done it, do it.
I can't completely agree. I don't believe any stance from ET to UR can be so sound from a scriptural standpoint that it's undeniable. I do believe there are some serious linguistical acrobatics that are played with aionion and kolasis. I'm not saying they are false, just not without question. I do believe there has been something birthed in your spirit and you accept it as fact. That is a good thing. But, I think sometimes our own revelation fails to acknowledge the diveristy of scripture on a subject and why others can believe the way they do. I understand why LS was a bit taken aback by your first post. If we are not careful, we start sounding like we are people who love doctrine more than we love others. So, when we are cautioned on how we teach...I believe that caution is to avoid hurting others in the process of our teaching. What we believe shouldn't divide us...it shouldn't be an us vs them mentality. I think this was something you were posting about just the other day.