I saw someone posting on another site that is apparently made up mostly of brothers and sisters that believe in ET, say the following;
"And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. I John 12:32 KJV)
All men are drawn to the cross, no exceptions. That's the point where one's eternal destiny is decided."
The conversation then went along the lines of "we have to warn them".
What things do you see missing in the above scenario?
Hi jabcat - what I see missing is the rest of the chapter. I'm not being flippant but there are two important things that for me, go beyond that one line.
First of all is the line directly after:
32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
33 This he said, signifying what death he should die.
Verse 33 in part explains verse 32 - I don't think it is talking about when Jesus is lifted up into the heavens, but when He is lifted up onto the cross. And I am a huge believer that all are
drawn to Him even if we don't know His name or have heard of Him ... I think it's the Romans passage again that the law is written on our hearts and some people obey it, others don't.
Second, I look at verses 48 and 50. Jesus is speaking the Father's words of everlasting life (verse 50) but we see clearly in verse 48 that some reject it and therefore do not receive it.
48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.
I know I'm not changing any of your minds and I'm really not attempting to ... but that is very honestly how I read this and it is so clear to me. Your op indicates that you think someone like me might be explaining it away and/or ignoring it, so I just wanted to explain what I see