Quote from: rosered on Today at 02:10:04 AM
Its weird I was just looking up the seven women taking a hold of one man
in Isaiah 4 1For seven women will take hold of one man in that day, saying, "We will eat our own bread and wear our own clothes, only let us be called by your name; take away our reproach!" 2In that day the Branch of the LORD will be beautiful and glorious, and the fruit of the earth will be the pride and the adornment of the survivors of Israel.…
I was thinking but could be wrong if it is the 7 churches/women in the right hand of the Lord in Rev 2 and 3 ?
Just curious to yours or anyone opinion
I have not heard of that, so would have to think on it to offer my opinion.
At first glance I see the similarity of 7, but there are differences which do not appear to mesh with both accounts as to the character of the women and the character of the assemblies.
I agree with you those 7 women seem like a part of Babylon to me , a Husband to ONE man iysh Strong's H376 - 'iysh
Part of Speech
Root Word (Etymology)
Contracted for אֱנוֹשׁ (H582) [or perhaps rather from an unused root meaning to be extant] still in existence; surviving.
Outline of Biblical Usage
man, male (in contrast to woman, female)
human being, person (in contrast to God)
I have wonderred about this for a few years now
the main reason I have is because of John 's revelations of seeing the Great Harlot and abomination of the earth Babylon and was in awe of her splendor in the earth
and thought if He even being in the Spirit on the Lords Day and receiving all this unveiling of Prophecy /Jesus Christ by the Spirit had to be corrected by the Messenger as to why are you in awe of her?? AND the scriptures message of , "if it were possible even the very elect would be deceived"
the very elect of God and it was not possible
because John was corrected right there on the spot in the Spirit by a spiritual messenger /angel
also by Jesus in Matt 24 as to the false christ's /anointed ones and as to where they were to look and most not to look and that being even in the secret chambers of the hearts to me Matt 23 describes its Jerusalem Jesus is directly speaking to , the lost and wandering off sheep of Israel .
, I just have to wonder also if those 7 churches/assemblies /women are like a race and are Like Paul mentions running the race as to receive the prize of the Higher calling and that is the Spirit saying come up here , Jesus being the Reward and Jesus says His rewards are with Him ,
and noted in every one of these women / assemblies are corrections with flaws and errors /sins that have to be chastened by the Lord Jesus and the rewards of overcoming , this overcoming is like running a race that Paul speaks of that can and does beset us , or causes a stumbling block in the way that we have to overcome or escape as a trap in
and thought of the 7 hills/ rulers and Jesus does appoint seven stars / messengers over the seven women or assemblies
Maybe this is the test that comes upon the whole word to test them ? all in the Hnd /power of Jesus Christ to bring correction as found in Isaiah 4 for Gods glory
I know that the seven hills are in Rome and Jerusalem and than there is Sodom and Egypt /symbolically called is Jerusalem and is also that is called Babylon also ,
Babylon is divided into 3 parts we have some old testament scriptures to prove this as well as some new , they all have patterns to them
Jerusalem went into Babylon captivity and you could not hardly tell the difference between the two , Babylon affected Jerusalem where the good and bad figs they were the "fruit " of their doings , those coming our were good really good and the others coming out were worse
we can by allegory see Gal 4 as Paul to saying the same things of servants to heirs as children and no difference but only though the tutoring/ teaching and correction
we also Know Paul addresses the earthly Jerusalem in name only !! but is 25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answers to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Not Babylon who appears glorious in the earth and answers to Jerusalem
some examples ...
Rev 11 and their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city that symbolically
is called Sodom and Egypt, where their Lord was crucified.[Jerusalem ]
Jer 23:14 I have seen also in the prophets of Jerusalem
an horrible thing: they commit adultery, and walk in lies: they strengthen also the hands of evildoers, that none doth return from his wickedness: they are all of them unto me as Sodom
, and the inhabitants thereof as Gomorrah.
18And there were flashes of lightning and sounds and peals of thunder; and there was a great earthquake, such as there had not been since man came to be upon the earth, so great an earthquake was it, and so mighty. 19The great city was split into three parts
, and the cities of the nations
fell. Babylon the great was remembered before God, to give her the cup of the wine of His fierce wrath. 20And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.…
Rev 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains
, on which the woman sits. we know this is the fake image in the earth [ seven spirits more wicked than himself Jesus tells when you go out seeking in dry places ]
I wonder about the 7 assemblies as a Menorah as well the lampstands that can have their light put out as a warning , that is under the control of the Lord Jesus Christ
For me its hard to tell one is above and heavenly the other is earthly and below and that is the main distinctions between the two sets of 7 women assemblies /churches the Holy and life giving is above and Spirit
the below is also spiritual but deadly and devouring
I know this is pretty choppy , and hard to follow , I do apologize for that