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Deena:
Before I believed in Ur, the goal when evangelizing was mapped out by the "four spiritual laws" tract which leads to the sinner's prayer. Now that I no longer believe in "turn or burn" theology, I am a bit confused about what someone must do to be saved. Is it simply done by believing and confessing it to be true?

ded2daworld:
That's what Paul said to answer the question of the Phillipian Jailer, "Sirs, what must I DO to be saved?"
Paul replied, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved - you and your family"

Almost every time the word "believe" is used in this context, the amplified bible puts in clarification parenthesis:

"trust in, adhere to, rely on" It has helped me a lot since the english word believe is so ambiguous(sp?)

"I believe it's going to rain today." "I believe I'll have a second helping of turkey." "I believe on the Lord Jesus Christ."

jabcat:

--- Quote from: ded2daworld on November 24, 2012, 06:16:57 PM ---That's what Paul said to answer the question of the Phillipian Jailer, "Sirs, what must I DO to be saved?"
Paul replied, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved - you and your family"


"trust in, adhere to, rely on"

--- End quote ---

 :thumbsup:

I believe it takes the same thing, whether ET or UR believer.  As is the case with thousands of believers down through the centuries - I was spiritually reborn many years before God showed me His plan of UR.

I believe one must first be drawn by the Holy Spirit, then be given the faith to believe (trust in) Jesus as their Savior.  Some in this lifetime, the rest in the next.  ("No man comes to the Father except through Me" - Jesus.  "it's by grace through faith you are saved, and that not of yourselves").

lomarah:
Deena - we are saved from sin and death. We are "dead in trespasses and sins".  The wages of sin is death. Christ saves us from sin and death (not "hell", or at least not in the traditional view). All who sin are slaves to sin. (Everyone is born in sin.) Sin hurts us. He saves us from sin and death as we put our faith in His saving grace. In a very real and literal sense. In this life, now, He will free us from sin and every thing that holds us captive as we simply put our faith in Him to do it. This is the good news!! Christ came to free us from sin and death and to bring us a Way to the Father! Oh I wish everyone could see and feel His longing for us! Oh that everyone would seek Him with all of their heart! They would find their true hearts desire. He is wonderful!!

bushy:
1John 4:14, "The Father has sent His Son to be the savior of the world." And 1 Timothy 2:6, "who gave Himself as a ransom for all."  This event is ancient history to us now since it happened almost 2000 years ago and we don't have to believe anything or do anything for this stage of our salvation to have happened. And,  Galations 1:4, "who gave Himself for our sins to rescue us from this present evil age according to the will of our God and Father." This is what we were saved from at that time and we didn't have anything to do with it. This shows really clearly that salvation is universal, at least this part.

But then there is the big problem of our sins which is a pretty long list of the deeds of the flesh that we need to be freed from. Ephesians 2:5, "even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved)", This salvation happened when we believed, at least part of it and the rest is ongoing for the rest of our life. John 3:36, "He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him." John 5:24, "I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life.

Mostly I feel like I'm writing this to myself because these are some things I have been trying to understand lately, like what we are saved from and believing seemed like works that we do to be saved instead of a gift. I once saw that what we do is what we believe, not what is part of our theology. That makes believing really important for what we do and the changes that we make in our lives.

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