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Redemption of the BODY
« on: July 11, 2009, 01:02:58 PM »
Re 22:14 - 
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have "right to the tree of life", and may enter in through the gates into the city
What I have on my mind right NOW from
the scriptures concerns the "body"....
and "here we have no continuing City..."

You can read in Hebrews and ask yourself where "here" is,
but it is a "place" where there is NO Continuing City.
Heb 13:14 - 
For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come.

Still searching tho concerning the "body"........
Going without the camp, suffering with HIM is better than staying "in the camp
where the bodies of those beasts are
Heb 13:11 - 
For the bodies of those beasts, whose blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin, are burned without the camp.
Notice that it is a place of burning of bodies.

Following the Lord provides us with POWER over the "fire" ..........
Re 14:18 - 
And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe

Notice above there is a mention of "altar" and also POWER OVER the FIRE.

Remember that we quoted from Heb. 13 that about "we have an altar
where "they" ..........have NO RIGHT to eat.

These scriptures are sorta new to me
put together this way.  Tell me what you
Notice in the last scripture above, there is an "altar"
where there is POWER over the FIRE!!
Remember the story of the 3 Hebrew children whose
bodies were cast into the fire, but there was an "angel"
with POWER over the FIRE and it was their enemies
that were "burned" instead.
The "body" seems to be the "purchased
possession" and the "temple" of the Lord.
It is NOT for fornication tho other Lords
beside THE Lord have had domnion over
our bodies.....there has to be a way to
stop that.

Paul prayed that we should be presented to the
Lord "whole, body, soul, and spirit."  In the earnest
of our inheritance, it seems the "body" is left til
the "corruptible PUTS on Incorruption", I am
not talking of "immortality" but I am looking into
the "change" that some shall not sleep
, obtains. 
Whether "I" ever obtain it or not, I will let God be true.
It is there.
The "body" is NOT for fornication, the "body" is for the
Lord, and the Lord for the body! The redemption of it
is part of our INHERITANCE!!! Do you agree that the "body"
is the purchased possession?
We have been sealed with the earnest of our inheritance, 
14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
But He purchased more than what we enjoy!  He also purchased our "bodies"
for our "bodies" are the "temple" of the Lord
Tho in the old testament, there is a scripture that says:
Isa 26:13 -
O LORD our God, other lords beside thee have had dominion over us: but by thee only will we make mention of thy name/
Nehemiah speaks of the "body"  
Ne 9:37 -
And it yieldeth much increase unto the kings whom thou hast set over us because of our sins: also they have dominion over our bodies, and over our cattle, at their pleasure, and we are in great distress.
We wait for the "redemption" of that
purchased possession.  Redemption from
what? The fire? Is that fire the LOF? And when
death and hell are cast in it, do we obtain the redemption
of the body???

Sounds good to me.
Romans 8 ......redemption of the "body"
I know.........deep........but hopeful.
Mine is worn out.
I love you forever.
 Hebrews 13.........where it says "we" have
an altar that "they" have NO RIGHT to eat, that "serve"
the tabernacle.  That is ministry to "man" ......the first
The ministry to the LORD HIMSELF is to "serve" the is an "altar" most HOLY. 
Without the camp is spoken of there.  Therefore
let "us" go without the camp.  The camp is where
the "people" fellowship, so suffering is to be
seperated from that group and following on the
serve the Lord, right? 

Here are the scriptures mentioning "redemption"
What "if" our "bodies" are the LAND...........???
Notice the word "hope" below........
And remember Romans 8 where it says "What a man
hath, why doth he yet HOPE?"  It is talking about
the "body." The redemption of the BODY.
A NEW Body needs no redemption.
We shall not all sleep........but we shall all be changed.
God is able to "change" this vile body!
Scriptures with the word "redemption" in it.   
Le 25:24 - 
And in all the land of your possession ye shall grant a redemption for the land.

Le 25:51 -
If there be yet many years behind, according unto them he shall give again the price of his redemption out of the money that he was bought for.

Le 25:52 - 
And if there remain but few years unto the year of jubile, then he shall count with him, and according unto his years shall he give him again the price of his redemption.

Nu 3:49 -
And Moses took the redemption money of them that were over and above them that were redeemed by the Levites:

Ps 49:8 - Show Context
(For the redemption of their soul is precious, and it ceaseth for ever:)

Ps 111:9 - Show Context
He sent redemption unto his people: he hath commanded his covenant for ever: holy and reverend is his name.

Ps 130:7 - Show Context
Let Israel hope in the LORD: for with the LORD there is mercy, and with him is plenteous redemption.

Jer 32:7 -
Behold, Hanameel the son of Shallum thine uncle shall come unto thee, saying, Buy thee my field that is in Anathoth: for the right of redemption is thine to buy it.

Jer 32:8 -
So Hanameel mine uncle's son came to me in the court of the prison according to the word of the LORD, and said unto me, Buy my field, I pray thee, that is in Anathoth, which is in the country of Benjamin: for the right of inheritance is thine, and the redemption is thine; buy it for thyself. Then I knew that this was the word of the LORD.

Lu 2:38 -
And she coming in that instant gave thanks likewise unto the Lord, and spake of him to all them that looked for redemption in Jerusalem.

Lu 21:28 - 
And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

Ro 3:24 - 
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Ro 8:23 - 
And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

1Co 1:30 - 
But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:

Eph 1:7 - 
In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

Eph 1:14 - 
Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

Eph 4:30 -
And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

Col 1:14 - 
In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

Heb 9:12 -
Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.

Heb 9:15 -
And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.


Heb 13:13 -

Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp, bearing his reproach.

The place of the reproach is also the place of safety!  of Peace. For HERE, we have no continuing city
but we seek one to come. 

Come up Higher.

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Re: Redemption of the BODY
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2009, 05:40:18 PM »
 :cloud9: GOOD Word, RLV........timely........ :thumbsup: Blessings....
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Re: Redemption of the BODY
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2009, 07:45:18 PM »
From the altar came another angel who had authority over fire. He called out in a loud voice to the angel who had the sharp sickle, "Swing your sharp sickle, and gather the bunches of grapes from the vine of the earth, because those grapes are ripe."

--Rev 14:18

This angel has authority over the fire--and calls for the wrath of God to come down on sinners.

What happens to harvested grapes?  First they are trampled  in the winepress.

Revelation 19:15
Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. "He will rule them with an iron scepter." He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty.

Treaded on grapes turn to wine.  A cup [of wine] is prepared for them.  They will drink of their own sin [which is the wrath of God.]

Revelation 14:10
The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation;

Mat 23
31Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.

32Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.

But we have one with a higher authority than all the angels.

 4Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

--Heb 1


From a presumed derivative of the base of G1097 (compare G3685); a "name" (literally or figuratively), (authority, character): - called, (+ sur-) name (-d).

Jesus has drunk the cup of God's wrath for us--taking the consequences of our sinful flesh onto himself.  Yes, he has switched places with us, his body burned outside the camp for us, the Lamb of God.

 24And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.

25After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.

--1 Cor 11

And, we are called on to do the same, to follow in his footsteps, burned outside the camp--but this time, because of him, a living sacrifice, like him, giving mercy to those who don't deserve it. 

11When the Pharisees saw this, they asked his disciples, "Why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and 'sinners'?"

 12On hearing this, Jesus said, "It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. 13But go and learn what this means: 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners."

--Mat 9

Therefore go to him outside the camp and endure the insults he endured.

--Heb 13:13

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