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Offline thinktank

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Moses Serpent lifted up
« on: July 20, 2011, 10:11:14 PM »
This scripture made no sense to me.

Why would God choose the serpent for Moses to lift upon a pole?

It is like giving glory to the serpent.

But this thought came to me.

That the devil defeated himself. Since he decided to crucify Jesus the son of God. He mistakenly sealed his own fate.

Also the scripture came to mind which is, if satan cast out satan, how can his kingdom stand.

I believe this is a prophetic word from God is to show one of the ways that Satan will be defeated and that is civil war in his kingdom.
On the cross, one of the demons tempted Christ to come down form the cross and save himself.
But the other princes wanted to crucify the Son of God.
So here we have war in the devils kingdom already at this point.



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Re: Moses Serpent lifted up
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2011, 11:20:43 PM »
maybe God chose the serpent on the pole as an example of God ordaining something and man corrupting it.  Eventually the Israelites were worshipping this image and it was removed with the ark IIRC.  (although it could have been any symbol I guess and they likely would have worshipped it)  But the serpent represents our carnal mind, and of course self is the greatest idol of all.


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Re: Moses Serpent lifted up
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2011, 11:22:11 PM »
This scripture made no sense to me.

Why would God choose the serpent for Moses to lift upon a pole?

It is like giving glory to the serpent.
It went wrong when they began to worship/give glory to the serpent.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: Moses Serpent lifted up
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2011, 11:22:30 PM »
 your post blessed me,TT

    Jesus warned them...IF I BE LIFTED UP,I WILL DRAW ALL MEN TO ME[they were jealous that the whole city would follow him]

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Re: Moses Serpent lifted up
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2011, 09:16:33 PM »
This scripture made no sense to me.

Why would God choose the serpent for Moses to lift upon a pole?

It is like giving glory to the serpent.

But this thought came to me.

That the devil defeated himself. Since he decided to crucify Jesus the son of God. He mistakenly sealed his own fate.

Also the scripture came to mind which is, if satan cast out satan, how can his kingdom stand.

I believe this is a prophetic word from God is to show one of the ways that Satan will be defeated and that is civil war in his kingdom.
On the cross, one of the demons tempted Christ to come down form the cross and save himself.
But the other princes wanted to crucify the Son of God.
So here we have war in the devils kingdom already at this point.


This serpent of brass is a prophesy of Jesus Christ on the cross

JN.3:14-15 14And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: 15That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

Now why would Christ be shown as a serpent?

We find the answer in RO.8:3 3For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

Jesus bore the likeness of sinful flesh , the likeness of the serpent

, 21For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. 2CO.5:21.



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Re: Moses Serpent lifted up
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2011, 12:25:20 AM »
Excellent! Praise the Lord! :happy3:
Mic 7:8  Thou dost not rejoice over me, O mine enemy, When I have fallen, I have risen, When I sit in darkness Jehovah is a light to me.

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Re: Moses Serpent lifted up
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2011, 06:40:31 AM »
This scripture made no sense to me.

Why would God choose the serpent for Moses to lift upon a pole?

It is like giving glory to the serpent.

But this thought came to me.

That the devil defeated himself. Since he decided to crucify Jesus the son of God. He mistakenly sealed his own fate.

Also the scripture came to mind which is, if satan cast out satan, how can his kingdom stand.

I believe this is a prophetic word from God is to show one of the ways that Satan will be defeated and that is civil war in his kingdom.
On the cross, one of the demons tempted Christ to come down form the cross and save himself.
But the other princes wanted to crucify the Son of God.
So here we have war in the devils kingdom already at this point.


This serpent of brass is a prophesy of Jesus Christ on the cross

JN.3:14-15 14And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: 15That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

Now why would Christ be shown as a serpent?

We find the answer in RO.8:3 3For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

Jesus bore the likeness of sinful flesh , the likeness of the serpent

, 21For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. 2CO.5:21.

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Re: Moses Serpent lifted up
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2011, 08:28:36 PM »
This serpent of brass is a prophesy of Jesus Christ on the cross

JN.3:14-15 14And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: 15That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

Now why would Christ be shown as a serpent?

We find the answer in RO.8:3 3For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

Jesus bore the likeness of sinful flesh , the likeness of the serpent

, 21For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. 2CO.5:21.

Yup, Amen
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