And without arguing it's just making statements which are viewed as teaching. That's not allowed either...
Learning comes only by:
- Listening to a teacher --> teachers are forbidden on TM
- Arguing ---> Forbidden on TM
- Self-study ---> No forum needed for that.
Arguing is a great way of learning. What I was missing in Levi's posts is that he never really answered any questions. But unfortunately that's quite common on this forum because the threads go off-topic very often in a very early stage.
Levi could have handled things differently but likewise could those who answered him. Take for example, Levi's view about following commandments. Very Scriptual. But such statements are illegal teaching while an misused/misunderstood verse like 'love is the greatest commandment of all" are suddenly wise and not teaching? Sorry to say I call that double standards and hiding from actually learning something new....
Discernment is an issue here. That may be unfortunate in a way, because it is not black and white. It was clear to me right away that he had no intention to discuss. Arguing is not forbidden on TM if by that you mean discussion or even debate in a reasonable tone. "Teaching" is something we all do as we share our views, but "teaching" from an exalted "I'm in the know, my position is the correct one" attitude is not allowed for long because it always ends up involving judging and personal attacks. This because love, the supreme teacher, does not need that extra emphasis from the flesh.
True teaching just breaks bread and if it multiplies, gives the glory to God.
Strife in the soulish realm does not do that.
Certainly adding the "and if you don't receive me and my words Father will get after you" is absolutely what James called it, earthly, sensual(psuche-soulical or psychological)- even at times demonic. This was the real issue with Stephen, and it is the reason he would not "come out" unless someone took his bait :o)
I for one believe there was a general sense that this was the case, because no one did take his bait.
IMO Learning comes much more through fellowship and the resulting grace that flows from member to member in a generous and patient discussion or midrash than from listening to "teachers".
True teachers, within the context of the Body, will teach in a humble and patient manner, as paul instructed Timothy, "The servant of the Lord must not strive(add soul power to force submission/acceptance), but be gentle to al, patiently instructing them...."
This teaching Paul and James give about teaching is just as foundational doctrinally as anything else we are trying to learn about the kingdom, and certainly more foundational than the doctrines and facts and systematic theologies people get excited about because.........
These are His ways. He was among them as a Lamb. He only roared when the Lion rose up- rarely- and if we are going to roar we better be sure it is the Lamb roaring through us, otherwise we will stumble over the stumbling stone.
The forum is as much about fellowship as it is about facts- more so really. For believers who come here, tentative, threatened by their theological pasts, looking for a safe place to ask the questions that most of us struggled through over longer periods fr lack of such fellowship- minimizing weirdness and dominion driven agendas is very important.
Stephen was looking to dominate. That's the real reason he is gone.