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Is Anyone Here Good at Algebra?
« on: July 24, 2009, 08:56:24 PM »
Here's the problem:


"Five of you shall chase a thousand, and a hundred of you shall put ten thousand to flight" (Lev 26:8),



Population Clocks
U.S. 306,993,024
World 6,773,173,831
17:41 GMT (EST+5) Jul 24, 2009


when doing the math, would you please round-up the world population number to 7-billion people, thanks.

So, I'm not looking for the number of FIVES or the number of A HUNDREDS, I'm curious about the number of individuals.
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Is Anyone Here Good at Algebra?
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2009, 09:06:34 PM »
I'm curious about what exactly you are asking.
That's no funny remark. I really don't understand the question. :dontknow:
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Re: Is Anyone Here Good at Algebra?
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2009, 09:10:28 PM »
I'm asking how many individuals it would take to put 7-billion to flight using the formula from Lev 26:8

 I'm looking for a number.

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Re: Is Anyone Here Good at Algebra?
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2009, 09:31:57 PM »
I'm asking how many individuals it would take to put 7-billion to flight using the formula from Lev 26:8

 I'm looking for a number.
Elsewhere the Scriptures say (Deuteronomy 32:30) that one will put a thousand to flight, two will put ten thousand to flight, which to me implies 3 put a million to flight, and so forth so that the exponent is increasing each time:

1 - 1000
2 - 10,000
3 - 1,000,000
4 - 1,000,000,000
5 - 10,000,000,000,000
6 - 1,000,000,000,000,000,000
7 - 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
8 - 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
9 - 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
10 - 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
11 - 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
12 -  1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
13 -  1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000


Above numbers are approximates that I'd have to recheck, but basically, enough to deal with all of the life forms we'd encounter during the reign of Christ Jesus.

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Re: Is Anyone Here Good at Algebra?
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2009, 09:34:16 PM »
Thanks, but would you do the first one for me too?

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Re: Is Anyone Here Good at Algebra?
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2009, 09:44:24 PM »
BS,
I think your verse is wrong....
From LXX
Leviticus 26:8 And five of you shall chase a hundred, and a hundred of you shall chase tens of thousands; and your enemies shall fall before you by the sword.

The problem with your verse is that the percentage of chasers increased faster than those to be chased.
Unlike the verse Martin quoted.
5 chase a 1000 means 1 chases 200
100 chase 10000 means 1 chases 100

To chase 10 billion you need 6.4 billion chasers.

Don't ask me why but I think the number should be 144,000
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Re: Is Anyone Here Good at Algebra?
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2009, 09:52:58 PM »
I was just curious as to what the number would be if applied to the current world pop., rounded-up to a more significant number of 7.

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Re: Is Anyone Here Good at Algebra?
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2009, 09:59:30 PM »
I actually came up with two different numbers.

Given: Five of you shall chase a thousand, then 1,400,000 chase 7 billion

and

Given: A hundred of you shall put ten thousand, then 7000 chase 7 billion.

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Re: Is Anyone Here Good at Algebra?
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2009, 10:10:53 PM »
That's the point I was trying to make. There are two different ratio's between chasers and the chased.
If you extrapolate that change you get 7 billion are chased by ~8.6 billion
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Re: Is Anyone Here Good at Algebra?
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2009, 10:16:13 PM »
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Given: Five of you shall chase a thousand, then 1,400,000 chase 7 billion
5 chase a 1000 means 1 chases 200. => 7,000,000,000/200=35,000,000 chasers

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Given: A hundred of you shall put ten thousand, then 7000 chase 7 billion.

100 chase a 10000 means 1 chases 100 => 7,000,000,000/100=70,000,000 chasers
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Re: Is Anyone Here Good at Algebra?
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2009, 10:25:14 PM »
Both verses from LXX

Deuteronomy 32:30 How should one pursue a thousand, and two rout tens of thousands, if God had not sold them, and the Lord delivered them up?

Leviticus 26:8 And five of you shall chase a hundred, and a hundred of you shall chase tens of thousands; and your enemies shall fall before you by the sword.

Noticed the red s?
Mean a unknown multiple of 10. So at least 20,000 instead of 10,000
If look at Leviticus and read tens as 20 then suddenly you don't get different answers.
But that's just an assumption I can't prove. (and not trying to either)


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Re: Is Anyone Here Good at Algebra?
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2009, 10:27:29 PM »
Thanks WW
I'm not trying to prove anything either.
I was just sitting here with morning coffee reading scripture when it hit me to do the math, just a passing fancy!

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Re: Is Anyone Here Good at Algebra?
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2009, 10:33:40 PM »
Elsewhere the Scriptures say (Deuteronomy 32:30) that one will put a thousand to flight, two will put ten thousand to flight, which to me implies 3 put a million to flight, and so forth so that the exponent is increasing each time:
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I would say 3 put 100,000 to flight.
Each time a chaser is added 10x more are chased.
1-    1,000
2-  10,000 => 10x 1000
3-100,000 =>  10x 10000
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Re: Is Anyone Here Good at Algebra?
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2009, 10:39:18 PM »
I'm not trying to prove anything either.

Ignoring the (exact) number; did this verse made you thing of say a unfulfilled prophesy?
Or just curious?

Personally I think the verses only say that having God on your side gives an enormous boost to your army.
Personally I would have found it 'special' if the number was 144,000. So I was curious...
But even with a lot of fantasy I can't even come close.
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Re: Is Anyone Here Good at Algebra?
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2009, 11:03:31 PM »
No, WW, nothing specific at all.
Just coffee+Scripture+I recently read something about populations=Hey! I wonder...