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Re: When Jesus comes back!
« Reply #75 on: December 01, 2014, 04:01:28 AM »
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Re: When Jesus comes back!
« Reply #76 on: December 01, 2014, 10:25:44 PM »
  Eagles way wrote
 .My perspective is that the revelation was given mainly for  believers, the ecclesia,  for the purpose of revealing their destiny and the plan of God as it manifests the fulness of Christ for the recovery of the whole creation.

I have a different perceptive not a better perspective just different.

I believe the book of revelations is for the unbeliever.
The idea of a book that could be prophetic tweaks   their interest .
It is worded in such a way. That to find out what it means you have to study other writings in the bible.
 Leading you to find out about Jesus,
 the purpose of revelations is to reveal Jesus .
Like the miraculous and the prophetic nature of the early disciples the gifts where used to draw a crowd ,and influence many.

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Re: When Jesus comes back!
« Reply #77 on: December 01, 2014, 10:53:13 PM »
  Eagles way wrote
 .My perspective is that the revelation was given mainly for  believers, the ecclesia,  for the purpose of revealing their destiny and the plan of God as it manifests the fulness of Christ for the recovery of the whole creation.

I have a different perceptive not a better perspective just different.

I believe the book of revelations is for the unbeliever.
The idea of a book that could be prophetic tweaks   their interest .
It is worded in such a way. That to find out what it means you have to study other writings in the bible.
 Leading you to find out about Jesus,
 the purpose of revelations is to reveal Jesus .
Like the miraculous and the prophetic nature of the early disciples the gifts where used to draw a crowd ,and influence many.

Only the what you speak of is NOT the "book of revelations."  :sigh:
It is THE REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST and is not a "tweak" book.
I hope I did not offend you, but the thought that the unveiling or revealing of Jesus Christ is for unbelievers upset me some.
 "My perspective is that the revelation was given mainly for  believers, the ecclesia,  for the purpose of revealing their destiny and the plan of God as it manifests the fulness of Christ for the recovery of the whole creation.

I think the revelation was given as an immediate opening(unsealed/unveiled/apocalypse) of the mind of God and Christ, living and active and relevant in every generation until the end of this age. Bearing gifts always "at hand". The word "engys" (greek at hand, near) occurs 30 times in the NT, in virtually every case denoting close proximity in time or in distance." Eaglesway

See what it says in Rev. 1:1 "to shew to his servants what things it behoveth to come to pass quickly; and he did signify it," what it will signify(show with signs and symbols) will come quickly to his servants within the servants mind for understanding. When that happens, it will no longer be servant but FRIEND :HeartThrob: :dsunny: [oops....I add ....this is my opinion]
Mic 7:8  Thou dost not rejoice over me, O mine enemy, When I have fallen, I have risen, When I sit in darkness Jehovah is a light to me.

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Re: When Jesus comes back!
« Reply #78 on: December 01, 2014, 11:52:18 PM »
If you look at the books that are bestsellers .
Then the ones that are bestsellers that talk about Jesus are few.
Some of the only information that an unbeliever will ever read are in these books.
Marketers and mass media treat the book of relations
as a toy a fun thing to make money off of.

But because even a portion of the book of revelations is being read.
The unbeliever can be exposed to Jesus.
That Jesus is being read about. Is a an ear hearing what the spirit says.

Many many unbelieving  people come to the word because of the book of revelations.
A lot of other (believers) make a ton of money from the book.

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Re: When Jesus comes back!
« Reply #79 on: December 01, 2014, 11:54:07 PM »
  Eagles way wrote
 .My perspective is that the revelation was given mainly for  believers, the ecclesia,  for the purpose of revealing their destiny and the plan of God as it manifests the fulness of Christ for the recovery of the whole creation.

I have a different perceptive not a better perspective just different.

I believe the book of revelations is for the unbeliever.
The idea of a book that could be prophetic tweaks   their interest .
It is worded in such a way. That to find out what it means you have to study other writings in the bible.
 Leading you to find out about Jesus,
 the purpose of revelations is to reveal Jesus .
Like the miraculous and the prophetic nature of the early disciples the gifts where used to draw a crowd ,and influence many.

Only the what you speak of is NOT the "book of revelations."  :sigh:
It is THE REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST and is not a "tweak" book.
I hope I did not offend you, but the thought that the unveiling or revealing of Jesus Christ is for unbelievers upset me some.
 "My perspective is that the revelation was given mainly for  believers, the ecclesia,  for the purpose of revealing their destiny and the plan of God as it manifests the fulness of Christ for the recovery of the whole creation.

I think the revelation was given as an immediate opening(unsealed/unveiled/apocalypse) of the mind of God and Christ, living and active and relevant in every generation until the end of this age. Bearing gifts always "at hand". The word "engys" (greek at hand, near) occurs 30 times in the NT, in virtually every case denoting close proximity in time or in distance." Eaglesway

See what it says in Rev. 1:1 "to shew to his servants what things it behoveth to come to pass quickly; and he did signify it," what it will signify(show with signs and symbols) will come quickly to his servants within the servants mind for understanding. When that happens, it will no longer be servant but FRIEND :HeartThrob: :dsunny: [oops....I add ....this is my opinion]

I look forward to and value your comments and postings. :dsunny: :Peace2:

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Re: When Jesus comes back!
« Reply #80 on: December 02, 2014, 01:23:54 AM »
Here I am, walking in a valley that has been given me...thankful  yes...and when I read things like "When Jesus comes back!" I look down as I walk, looking for sign, an example, I read where I walk, I have a book, my map and compass, I am put in my valley as Adam was put in the garden... to learn. Yes I am thankful and fearful, I am 70 years an old dog learning new things, difficult.
The multitude that zero in on that question "When Jesus comes back," makes me wonder if they ever knew He Came, HE IS COMING, and will Come.
Jesus most CERTAINLY came back and IS HERE NOW because, Joh 16:7  `But I tell you the truth; it is better for you that I go away, for if I may not go away, the Comforter will not come unto you, and if I go on, I will send Him unto you;
Heb 13:5  Without covetousness the behaviour, being content with the things present, for He hath said, `No, I will not leave, no, nor forsake thee,'

How could a stated offering such as, "`No, I will not leave, no, nor forsake thee,'
If HE had not came back!
So now for all you folks who are asking, "When Jesus comes back," KNOW THAT HE HAS sadly you have not recognized Him just as it was so when He approached THE Cross.
Mic 7:8  Thou dost not rejoice over me, O mine enemy, When I have fallen, I have risen, When I sit in darkness Jehovah is a light to me.