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Re: Experiencing the Tabernacle
« Reply #75 on: November 24, 2009, 05:57:58 PM »
 

  Wow !  :HeartThrob:  Very descriptive and   yet   very clear

 love it  :cloud9:  Almost visualize these things in motion  :thumbsup:

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« Reply #76 on: November 24, 2009, 07:10:09 PM »
Tremendous Post :icon_flower:
Isa 29:18 And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness.

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Re: Experiencing the Tabernacle
« Reply #77 on: December 19, 2009, 02:26:57 PM »
 :cloud9: Found this on the net. For those that have ears to hear what Heb. 10 says about the pattern of the Tabernacle, here is something to aid the study of it. Even though the DVD is $11.99, you can download some things free, if you click on it (purchase button).

I normally don't purchase much, but I am going to order this, as I think a picture is worth a thousand words, and I loan such things as I have, out all the time, and I think this would be good for illustration of principles. Blessings....

http://www.animmanstudios.com/tabernacle.html
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Re: Experiencing the Tabernacle
« Reply #78 on: December 19, 2009, 06:22:40 PM »
:cloud9: Found this on the net. For those that have ears to hear what Heb. 10 says about the pattern of the Tabernacle, here is something to aid the study of it. Even though the DVD is $11.99, you can download some things free, if you click on it (purchase button).

I normally don't purchase much, but I am going to order this, as I think a picture is worth a thousand words, and I loan such things as I have, out all the time, and I think this would be good for illustration of principles. Blessings....

http://www.animmanstudios.com/tabernacle.html
I had never pictured the pillar of fire over the tabernacle before.  That is so cool.


Hebrews 1:7
And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.

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Re: Experiencing the Tabernacle
« Reply #79 on: December 19, 2009, 11:28:46 PM »
 :cloud9: Yeah, the first time I realized that it was a PILLAR of cloud and a PILLAR of fire, a whole bunch of things just clicked! Blessings.....
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« Reply #80 on: December 20, 2009, 04:36:30 AM »
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Re: Experiencing the Tabernacle
« Reply #81 on: June 26, 2010, 09:06:33 PM »
I OCRed the following from a book I've just started reading.
OCR is a process in which a computer "reads" a printed book and converts it to text.
It's far from perfect. If certain parts are unreadable lemme know and I'll correct it manually.

Foreword

Jesus was crucified near the southern summit of the Mount of
Olives. There can be no doubt that this location is correct. Though
the actual site has been hidden for 1670 years, its true place can
now be found in the clearest of ways. The simplicity it took in
locating the spot deserves an explanation. Since the account does
not take long to explain, and since it has the advantage of showing
the coherence of all sections of the Bible in a symbolic and geo-
graphical sense, I will mention the discovery in this Foreword. The
outcome was unexpected and unusual. It shows that paying close
attention to the text of the Bible can be rewarding in showing the
real teachings of the Scriptures. This is what all of us who are
engaged in biblical studies want to comprehend in this modern age.
The following is what happened a little over twelve years ago.

The Symbolism of the Temple
In the early part of August, 1983, I was writing a chapter for the
first edition of my book Restoring the Original Bible. Customarily
when writing a book, I isolate myself from regular office and social
duties, so I was writing my book a hundred miles east of my office
in Pasadena, California. For the previous six weeks I had been con-
centrating only on writing this new book.
One evening while composing a chapter in which I was endeav-
oring to show a relationship between the three sections of the
Hebrew Bible called the Law, the Prophets and the Writings with
the three divisions of the Tabernacle that Moses raised up in the
wilderness, I accidentally came to see that this same analogy could
be used to pinpoint the place for the crucifixion of Jesus. This
occurred to me because I had come across an additional extension
to this analogy in research that I had previously done. That exten-
sion came about because of investigations I had made (about six
years before) showing that the three divisions of the Tabernacle
(and the Temple of Solomon as well as the Temple of Herod) could
also be equated in a symbolic sense with the three divisions of the
Land of Eden mentioned in the early chapters of Genesis. But now,
in writing this new book, and while attempting to show that the
three divisions of the Tabernacle and Temples were equated in a
symbolic way with the three divisions of the Hebrew Bible, I was
now faced with the additional fact that the three divisions of the
Land of Eden could be equally applied to support the analogy. In a
roundabout way, this led me to seek out the place for the crucifix-
ion of Jesus. Let us see how this can be done.
Since Judaism had long recognized that the three divisions of the
Land of Eden were analogous to the three divisions of the
Tabernacle and the Temples, the consequences of this fact afforded
me a prime symbolic hint of a geographical nature that prompted
me to begin a new search for the site of the crucifixion of Jesus. The
truth is, the analogies just mentioned (as strange as they may appear
at first) have profound geographical information in them that can
help anyone in identifying the place where Jesus was crucified if
one is willing to slow down and examine the evidence. This means
to examine the plain and simple geographical facts that anyone who
has even a superficial knowledge of the biblical revelation would
have no difficulty in ascertaining. Look at the geographical factors
that can aid us in discovering the place of Jesus' crucifixion.

Geography is the Key
The first geographical fact to note is the biblical account that the
Garden associated with Adam and Eve was located within an
extensive area called the Land of Eden. We must be careful to rec-
ognize that the Garden of Eden and the Land of Eden are not the
same in meaning. The Garden was actually situated within the
boundaries of Eden and it made up only a part of Eden. Look first
at the Garden. Close examination shows that the Garden had two
sections to it. The first and principal portion was its inner area
where God periodically met with Adam and Eve. This inner region
in the Jewish symbolism associated with the Tabernacle and
Temples answered to the inner Holy of Holies where God was sup-
posed to have His residence. The second section of the Garden was
the remainder of the outer Garden area (excluding the inner sec-
tion) and it had boundaries that separated the Garden from the rest
of the Land of Eden. This second section of the Garden answered
to an area located just east of the Holy of Holies and called the Holy
Place in the Tabernacle and Temples. This is where the priests per-
formed all their ceremonial duties. Outside the Garden one would
find himself within the territory that was called the Land of Eden.
The Land of Eden surrounded the Garden itself, and in the Book of
Genesis, this was called "the Land of Eden" proper. Remember that
the Garden was placed within this larger area called the Land of
Eden.
The biblical account then tells us that Adam and Eve were
expelled from the region of the Garden but they were able to make
their home in the rest of the Land of Eden. It was in this area of
Eden just outside the eastern gate of the Garden where Cain and
Abel built an altar to petition God whom they considered to be in
the inner Garden. This altar was built at the east entrance to the
Garden and there they offered their sacrifices. This particular altar
of Cain and Abel came to be analogous to the Altar of Burnt
Offering located just east of the Holy Place in the Tabernacle and
the later Temples.
Now look at the Land of Eden itself. The early Jewish authori-
ties understood that the whole area of Eden was symbolic of the
Court of the Israelites in the Tabernacle and Temples and it also
included the extended area around the Sanctuaries which came to
be called the "Camp of Israel." So, the two parts of the Garden with
the Land of Eden (when combined together) were identified as rep-
resenting the three compartments in the Tabernacle and later
Temples: 1) the Holy of Holies and 2) the Holy Place represented
the two parts of the Garden itself, and 3) the Court of Israel with the
"Camp of Israel" represented the rest of the Land of Eden. Let us
now look at this extensive area called the Land of Eden.

The Land of Eden Had Borders Around It
Recall that Cain was expelled from the Land of Eden (which the
Court and Camp of Israel came to represent). Cain was forced out-
side the borders of Eden into the Land of Nod which meant "Land
of Wandering." This land was located east of Eden. In the time of
the later Temples, this region answered to the lands of the Gentiles
outside the sanctified region at Jerusalem (that is, outside the
"Camp" area of Israel). It was in this outer area east of Eden that
God said Cain would be provided with an animal sacrifice that
would "lie at the door" (Genesis 4:7). The Hebrew of this verse
actually suggests that this sacrificial animal would be "couching at
the door" and that it would be under a heavy weight. Since Cain by
murdering Abel had sinned against his brother, and consequently
Cain had sinned against God by his murderous act, the animal sac-
rifice that God would provide for Cain was understood to be a type
of sin offering bearing a heavy weight of sin and guilt. God told
Cain that this sin offering was to be presented alive "at the door."
This "door" was an entrance into a region that the text in the Book
of Genesis does not specify. But there is no problem in identifying
the area where this "door" was located. This "door" was actually
the entrance back into the Land of Eden from the Land of Nod.
Remember, Cain had been expelled eastward from Eden and he
could not re-enter the Land of Eden. This "door" before which
Cain's sacrifice was to be placed was located at the eastern bound-
ary line between the Land of Eden and the Land of Nod. Since it
was recognized by Cain that God dwelt in the Garden which was
within the interior of Eden, this sacrifice for Cain was to be locat-
ed on an altar facing God at His dwelling place within the Garden.
Cain with his sacrifice was to petition God who dwelt in the Land
of Eden, west from the Land of Nod. In a word, the sacrifice of
Cain was to be placed on an altar just in front of the east entrance
to the Land of Eden.
Now, what do these symbolic teachings (and geographical mat-
ters) about Eden and Cain's offering have to do with the later
Tabernacle and the Temples at Jerusalem? And how can these early
symbolic factors help in identifying the site for the crucifixion of
Jesus? This is easy to answer. Let us look further.

The Clue to the Place of Jesus' Crucifixion
In the time of the later Sanctuaries, there was an altar associated
with those Temples that was analogous to the one that God provid-
ed for Cain. This was an altar that the prophet Ezekiel said was
located east of the Temple and "without the sanctuary" (Ezekiel
43:21). Very few people pay attention to this important altar, but it
was a sacred piece of furniture associated with the sacrificial ser-
vices of the Temple. On this particular altar some of the main sin
offerings ordained by Moses were burnt to ashes. Indeed, the
important sacrifice of the Red Heifer was performed at this eastern
altar which was located as Ezekiel says "without the sanctuary."
Using the Land of Eden in ,its symbolic fashion, this meant the altar
was situated "without the Land of Eden" and on its east side.
Where was this altar situated in relationship to the Temple? In the
time of Jesus, Jewish records show that this outer altar was located
near the southern summit of the Mount of Olives directly east of the
Temple. It was also positioned just "outside the Camp" of Israel,
which made it to be analogous to being just "outside the Land of
Eden." This was the same type of altar on which the sacrifice for
Cain mentioned in Genesis 4:7 was to be offered at the eastern
entrance (door) to Eden. It must be kept in mind that the "Camp of
Israel" in the time of Moses (and also in later periods) was sym-
bolically analogous to the "Land of Eden" in the early Genesis
account. I will show these facts in detail in the body of this book.
These matters were well recognized in Jewish circles in the first
century, but here I was writing my new book and endeavoring to
show a connection between the three compartments of the
Tabernacle and the Temples with the three divisions of the Old
Testament. While this was an interesting and proper comparison,
the one thing that began to puzzle me was the fact that the altar on
which Cain was to be given his sacrifice was located at the eastern
entrance to the Land of Eden. This altar of Cain was analogous to
that of Moses (and later Solomon and Herod) which he positioned
just "outside the camp" of Israel. The prophet Ezekiel said it was in
the east and also "without the sanctuary" (Ezekiel 43:21) and that
it was, itself, an "outward sanctuary" (Ezekiel 44:1). Jewish
sources tell us that this particular altar was located some 2000
cubits east of the central part of the Temple. In the time of Jesus, it
was placed slightly down slope from the southern summit of the
Mount of Olives and in full view of the Temple located in the west.
In writing about this fact on that Saturday in the early part of
August, 1983, all of a sudden it came to my attention that this geo-
graphical symbolism of Cain and his eastern altar might provide a
clue to the place where Jesus was crucified. Since most conserva-
tive Christian scholars had long suggested that the animal sacrifice
that God was preparing for Cain was typical of Jesus and his sacri-
ficial act of crucifixion, it began to dawn on me that this sacrifice
for Cain could well be a hint to the location of the place where
Jesus was crucified, even though the illustration was purely sym-
bolic. If this were a valid indication, then it was suggesting to me
that this could truly be a geographical clue to the whereabouts of
Jesus' crucifixion. The impression prompted me to look in an east-
erly direction from the Temple where I had never looked before.
Also, in my studies up to that time, I had never read or heard of any
scholar suggesting an easterly direction as even possible. What is
surprising in all of this is the fact that in my previous discussions
with anyone about the site of the crucifixion, not one person had
ever commented or even hinted to me that the eastern part of
Jerusalem had positive credentials. But here I was with this new
geographical clue. This new factor was directing me to look east-
ward to the Mount of Olives as the site for Jesus' crucifixion.

Symbol Represents Reality
This symbolic teaching was suggesting that the analogous
agreement between the Altar of Cain in the Land of Nod and the
Altar of the Red Heifer on the Mount of Olives ("the OUTWARD
Sanctuary" of Ezekiel 44:1) indicated that Jesus may have been
crucified east of the Temple to agree with the eastern aspect of
Cain's special sin offering on the altar that God provided for him.
Recognizing this hint made me immediately cease the writing of
my book. To me, discovering the place of the crucifixion of Jesus
was more important than finishing the book I was then composing.
It encouraged me to say to myself: "Early tomorrow morning I will
begin to look again in the Bible and history for any clues that might
identify the place where Jesus was crucified as being east of the
Temple and Jerusalem." With this new geographical glimpse, the
next morning I began a concentrated study of the matter. To my
utter amazement, within two days I had arrived at a number of
solidly based evidences from the Bible and history that began to
show conclusively that Jesus was indeed crucified east of the
Temple. To be more specific, this new evidence coming from the
Bible itself (which will be shown in this book) revealed that Jesus
was crucified near the southern summit of the Mount of Olives near
where the type of symbolic "altar for Cain" was then located.
With this new research, I telephoned my office staff in Pasadena
with the news. I informed them that it looked promising that the
place of Jesus' crucifixion could now be found. Within three days,
I returned to Pasadena and called a meeting of the staff and other
friends to explain the new research. They offered suggestions and
some corroborative points. I then wrote a preliminary report con-
ceming what I had found and sent it to all my associates in various
parts of the world who were on our mailing list.
Since the time of the original research, I have written two
research reports and two major books about the true site of the cru-
cifixion of Jesus (the title of my first book was "The Place of the
Crucifixion"). These works have increasingly shown, without the
slightest doubt in my mind, that the area east of the Temple at
Jerusalem and on the Mount of Olives is the place where Jesus was
crucified and resurrected from the dead. »
The following chapters of this book will reveal the outcome of
this early research in greater detail. There are now literally dozens
of major proofs which show that this first geographical hint that
came to me regarding the matter of "Cain's altar" was indeed a true
indication for locating the place where Jesus was crucified, and
cumulatively over these past twelve years, a variety of further evi-
dences have been discovered which present a strong case that Jesus
was crucified on the Mount of Olives.

Chapter 1 THE GEOGRAPHICAL KEY TO Jesus' CRUCIFIXION

There is no longer any doubt. Jesus was crucified near the sum-
mit of the Mount of Olives about half a mile east of the Temple
Mount. This fact is confirmed in the New Testament in a variety of
ways. One such confirmation comes from the Book of Hebrews. It
states that the crucifixion occurred "without the gate" and "without
the camp" of Israel that was associated with the city of Jerusalem
in the early first century (Hebrews 13:11-13). These geographical
factors in the Book of Hebrews are of utmost importance in locat-
ing the place of the crucifixion of Jesus. In fact, these two phrases
in the Book of Hebrews of themselves are sufficient to pinpoint the
region where the crucifixion of Jesus took place.
With the geographical references in the Book of Hebrews that
Jesus was crucified "without the gate" and "without the camp,"
these are adequate indications to allow any school child in the first
century who lived in the vicinity of Jerusalem the ability to identi-
fy the area of the crucifixion. These geographical factors may mean
little to us who live in the modem western world, but to early
Jewish people in the Jerusalem area, they can mean only one thing:
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Re: Experiencing the Tabernacle
« Reply #82 on: June 26, 2010, 09:41:55 PM »
 :cloud9: Love this! This is a must read.....Blessings... :thumbsup:
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Re: Experiencing the Tabernacle
« Reply #83 on: June 27, 2010, 07:24:30 AM »
CONSIDER: About 2,500 years ago, Ezekiel foresaw the future of the Temple Mount. The prophet wrote that the East Gate of the Temple Mount would be sealed, and remain sealed until the "prince" comes.

About 2,000 years later, a Muslim sealed the east gate with blocks and mortar. This same gate has remained closed for almost 500 years.



EZEKIEL 44:1-3



1 Then he brought me back the way of the gate of the outward sanctuary which looketh toward the east; and it was shut.
2 Then said the LORD unto me; THIS GATE SHALL BE SHUT, IT SHALL NOT BE OPENED, and no man shall enter in by it; because the LORD, the God of Israel, hath entered in by it, therefore it shall be shut.
3 It is for the prince; the prince, he shall sit in it to eat bread before the LORD; he shall enter by the way of the porch of that gate, and shall go out by the way of the same.



Ezekiel wrote that the gate of the "outward sanctuary" will be "shut" and it will "not be opened." The word "sanctuary" comes from the Hebrew word "miqdash" which means "holy place." Of course, the holy place of Israel is the entire Temple Mount in Jerusalem.

The East Gate of the Temple Mount is known as the "Gate of Mercy" and the "Golden Gate." If you travel to Israel today, you can witness with your own eyes that the east gate into the Old City is now walled shut, as Ezekiel predicted.



GOD'S GLORY COMES THROUGH THIS GATE



In the previous chapter of Ezekiel, the prophet described a vision of God coming to the earth. When God came to the earth, he entered the sanctuary through the East Gate:



EZEKIEL 43:1-5



1 Afterward he brought me to the gate, even the gate that looketh toward the east:
2 And, behold, the glory of the God of Israel came from the way of the east: and his voice was like a noise of many waters: and the earth shined with his glory.
3 And it was according to the appearance of the vision which I saw, even according to the vision that I saw when I came to destroy the city: and the visions were like the vision that I saw by the river Chebar; and I fell upon my face.
4 And the glory of the LORD came into the house by the way of the gate whose prospect is toward the east.
5 So the spirit took me up, and brought me into the inner court; and, behold, the glory of the LORD filled the house.



After Ezekiel had this vision, he wrote that the East Gate will be sealed because: "the LORD God had entered in by it" (44:2). This vision describes God's Spiritual essence entering the gate. According to Jesus, God's glory will cover Him when He returns:


"Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels." (Mark 8:38)


Although Jesus is God incarnate, God's spiritual essence will cover Him at the Second Coming. Therefore, God's glory will enter the "Gate of Mercy" at the same time He enters the gate. It is in this context that Ezekiel wrote these words:


"…this gate shall be shut, and it shall not be opened…" (Ezekiel 44:2)

Ezekiel wrote this prophecy in the 6th century B.C.


—About 600 years later, Jesus entered Jerusalem through the East Gate, riding on the back of a donkey. This is a scholarly deduction based upon Luke's account (Luke 19:28-48.) Furthermore, since Mt. Calvary is located outside of the Mercy Gate, it is evident that they took Christ to Golgotha through this gate. Thus the "prince" had "entered by the porch of that gate" and went out "by way of the same" (Ezekiel 44:3)

—Almost 2,000 years after this prophecy was written, the Gate of Mercy was permanently sealed. In the year 1543, Arabs under the direction of Sultan Suleiman "the Magnificent" walled up the gate with block and mortar. Since that time, the Gate of Mercy has never been opened.


Sultan Suleiman "the Magnificent" was the leader of the Ottoman Empire, and a member of the Muslim religion. Muslims obviously have no desire to convert anyone to Judaism. Yet, a Muslim fulfilled a Hebrew prophecy. In fact, it appears that Sultan Suleiman may have sealed this gate to prevent the Messiah's return:


"The gate is located in the middle of the eastern side of the Temple Mount. The portal in this position was believed to have been used for ritual purposes in biblical times. In Jewish tradition this is the gate through which Messiah will enter Jerusalem. It was sealed off in 1541 by Muslims, allegedly to prevent his entrance. The Muslims also built a cemetery in front of the gate, allegedly in the belief that the Messiah would not be able to pass through without risk of impurifying himself." From: Wikipedia, the Free Encyclopedia. www.wikipedia.org)  



"The Golden Gate, also facing east, is called in Hebrew and Arabic the "Gate of Mercy". According to Jewish tradition, this is the gate through with the Messiah will enter Jerusalem. To prevent the Messiah's entry, the Arabs sealed the gate several centuries ago." From: Israel: Jerusalem, Countries of the World, 01-01-1991 Embassy of Israel, Washington DC. and Jerusalem Within the Walls. Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs)


When Sultan Suleiman sealed the Gate of Mercy, he unwittingly fulfilled a Jewish prophecy. An attempt to invalidate a Hebrew prophecy fulfilled it instead.


THE GATE IS RESERVED FOR THE PRINCE



    Ezekiel stipulates that this gate is reserved for the "prince." "Prince" is a term used by the prophets for the son of David, the Messiah. For instance, the prophet Isaiah wrote:



"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." (Isaiah 9:6)



The Messiah is Israel's "Prince." God has ordained that no one will be able to open the Gate of Mercy until this Prince returns. The fulfillment of this prophecy has proven to be miraculous. Since the time Sultan Suleiman sealed the Gate of Mercy (in 1543), it has remained sealed year after year. Throughout all the years of violence, wars, and foreign occupations, no one has opened this gate.

http://www.testimonyofprophecy.com/pr001b.html



 4This took place to fulfill what was spoken through the prophet:
 5"Say to the Daughter of Zion,
      'See, your king comes to you,
   gentle and riding on a donkey,
      on a colt, the foal of a donkey.' "

 6The disciples went and did as Jesus had instructed them. 7They brought the donkey and the colt, placed their cloaks on them, and Jesus sat on them. 8A very large crowd spread their cloaks on the road, while others cut branches from the trees and spread them on the road. 9The crowds that went ahead of him and those that followed shouted,
   "Hosanna to the Son of David!"
   "Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!"
   "Hosanna in the highest!"


--Mat 21

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« Reply #84 on: June 27, 2010, 07:40:09 AM »
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« Reply #85 on: August 12, 2010, 11:07:14 PM »
http://www.wequanta.com//tabernacles.html

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« Reply #86 on: August 16, 2010, 05:52:26 AM »
Fitting that an Islamic ruler should seal the gate of mercy. Edifying post, Molly  :goodpost:

 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
(2Co 4:3-4)

Mat 24:27  "For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be."

For we did not follow cleverly devised tales when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of His majesty. For when He received honor and glory from God the Father, such an utterance as this was made to Him by the Majestic Glory, "This is My beloved Son with whom I am well-pleased"-- and we ourselves heard this utterance made from heaven when we were with Him on the holy mountain. So we have the prophetic word made more sure, to which you do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star arises in your hearts. But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation, for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.
(2Pe 1:16-21)

 
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Re: Experiencing the Tabernacle
« Reply #87 on: October 20, 2010, 03:35:56 PM »
 :cloud9: Hi.....this is something pertaining to Tabernacles the Lord gave me, that I wrote for my FB notes a few months back. I'm adding it here for obvious reasons. Blessings.....

Greetings.....this is a partial writing on revelation pertaining to the spiritual aspects of the Feast of Tabernacles. For clarity, please read "What About New Age?" note, before reading this.

He's making us a feast of FAT things. Fat things = those that have not allowed Him to circumcise their hearts by the processing of the work that is inherent in Passover and Pentecost. This is why the fat was an offering only for God the Father, and why we were told not to eat the fat of an animal in dietary laws (aside from making you sick).

Fat is above what is needed; as oil that has congealed, not flowing, LAID UP. It's not flowing because they have refused to go through the fire. Father allows us to receive the laid up riches in the others, as quickened revelation, if we submit to the fire. This is why the one who had one talent and did nothing with it but laid it up, his talent was given to the one who profited.

Isaiah 25:6 And in this mountain shall the LORD of hosts make unto all people a feast of fat things, a feast of wines on the lees, of fat things full of marrow, of wines on the lees well refined. 7 And he will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the vail that is spread over all nations.

Psalm 63:5 My soul shall be satisfied as with marrow and fatness; and my mouth shall praise thee with joyful lips: 6 When I remember thee upon my bed, and meditate on thee in the night watches.


This "fat" is representative of the wisdom of the Spirit which is Christ, that is hidden in the darkness of the uncircumcised of heart. This "fat" cannot be a light without the fire of the Holy Ghost consuming it. Uncircumcised ones, meaning those that have the wheat and the tares together still, that must still go thru the cleansing fire of the Holy Ghost.

Interestingly, the word for fatness in Psalm 63 above, literally means, "FAT ASHES, of blessing, of fertility", and comes from another root word meaning, "to anoint, to make fat, to prosper, to fatten oneself (of Jehovah's sword)". He gives us beauty (Christ's wisdom and nature) for ashes, fattens us with the sword, the Word of God, prospering our souls.

Mark 9:1 And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power. 2 And AFTER SIX DAYS Jesus taketh with him Peter, and James, and John, and leadeth them up into an HIGH MOUNTAIN APART by themselves: and he was transfigured before them. 3 And his raiment became shining , exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on earth can white them. 4 And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses: and they were talking with Jesus.

Mark 9:36 And he took a child, and set him in the midst of them: and when he had taken him in his arms , he said unto them, 37 Whosoever shall receive one of such children in my name, receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me, receiveth not me, but him that sent me.

Psalm 66:10 For thou, O God, hast proved us: thou hast tried us, as silver is tried. 11 Thou broughtest us into the net; thou laidst affliction upon our loins. 12 Thou hast caused men to ride over our heads; we went through fire and through water: but thou broughtest us out into a wealthy place. 13 I will go into thy house with burnt offerings: I will pay thee my vows, 14 Which my lips have uttered, and my mouth hath spoken , when I was in trouble. 15 I will offer unto thee burnt sacrifices of fatlings, with the incense of rams; I will offer bullocks with goats. Selah.


In the HARVEST, He will send His angels and they will GATHER (Tabernacles is called the Feast of Ingathering) up out of His Kingdom all things which offend and do iniquity, the tares which are then cast into the fire, Matt. 13. Fat is unappealing to look at, and does not appeal to the lust of the eyes, so many will not humble themselves to receive "meat" from the hand of the Lord from that which they consider to be "unclean".

The sheet that Peter saw had to be raised three times, the feast of Tabernacles is the third of the three main feasts. These unclean carnal beastly natures are being cleansed for us in this hour, that we eat the life of the Spirit hidden in the darkness of the flesh.

Without THIS FIRE being the one to do it, trying to consume this fat is as offering up strange fire, which is what you see happening to those that think it's ok to consume other things outside the Word, APART FROM THE LEADING OF THE SPIRIT OF GOD.

With the Spirit leading, no harm can come, for the tares are burned/consumed in the fire, REFINED in the refiner's fire, leaving the revelation which is hidden in the people, revealed by cleansing, distilled like wine. One of the best times of fellowship I have ever had, was with a Mormon, someone I would have never thought I could receive anything from.

But because the Lord's fire was present to consume the offering, what was of Christ's wisdom ascended as the smoke (cloud) of the offering, while the rest was dross. For our ashes He gives us beauty, the beauty of the only begotten Son. It's the same as refining gold, where the dross (doctrines without life) is consumed, but the gold (higher nature of God revealed, ie. revelations of the Word that IS life and Spirit) is retained.

John 7:1 After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him. 2 Now the Jews' FEAST OF TABERNACLES was at hand. 3 His brethren therefore said unto him, Depart hence, and go into Judaea, that thy disciples also may see the works that thou doest . 4 For there is no man that doeth any thing in secret, and he himself seeketh to be known openly. If thou do these things, shew thyself to the world. 5 For neither did his brethren believe in him. 6 Then Jesus said unto them, My time is not yet come: but your time is alway ready. 7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil. 8 Go ye up unto this feast: I go not up yet unto this feast; for my time is not yet full come. 9 When he had said these words unto them, he abode still in Galilee. 10 But when his brethren were gone up, then went he also up unto the feast, not openly, but as it were IN SECRET. 

Isa 45:3 -And I will give thee the TREASURES OF DARKNESS, and HIDDEN RICHES OF SECRET PLACES, that thou mayest know that I, the LORD, which call thee by thy name, am the God of Israel.


As I said, these treasures of darkness and hidden riches are none other than the wealth of the WICKED laid up (RESERVED IN HEAVEN/Christ IN them) for the just (those of the priesthood that are pressing in to celebrate this feast). Carnally minded man thought that this scripture dealt with physical riches (and that will follow), but the TRUE RICHES are things that be of Christ and the Father.

Starting with the above, the feast He went to IN SECRET in this passage, was literally the feast of Tabernacles.....and so too does He do this thing in secret with us spiritually, because it is unobservable, unlike Passover and Pentecost, and is typified by the fact the High Priest went in ALONE into the Holy of Holies.

Job 12:22 He discovereth deep things out of darkness, and bringeth out to light the shadow of death.

1Ki 8:12 Then spake Solomon, The LORD said that he would dwell in the thick darkness.


God hid Himself in the last place man would ever think to look......IN MAN.

Da 2:22 He revealeth the deep and secret things: he knoweth what is in the darkness, and the light dwelleth with him.

2Sa 22:12 And he MADE DARKNESS PAVILLIONS ROUND ABOUT HIM, dark waters, and thick clouds of the skies.


The interesting thing about the word pavillions there, is that it is the same word translated booth or tabernacle elsewhere. He is saying He dwells in the darkness of the tabernacles. Know ye not ye are the temple of the living God?

Psalm 139:8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: IF I MAKE MY BED IN HELL, BEHOLD, THOU ARE THERE.

Hell is separation from God, and there are many walking around that are in "hell" in this hour, and there is no greater darkness than that, yet HE is there. The lake of fire is that which the things that have us bound is cast into. As we are becoming one with Him who is a consuming fire, and He causes the "fat" to flow and give off light (understanding/revelation of Christ), we become that lake of fire that is used to bring the treasures hidden in the darkness, to light.

Psalm 139:9 If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea; 10 Even there shall thy hand lead me, and thy right hand shall hold me. 11 If I say, Surely the darkness shall cover me; even the night shall be light about me. 12 YEA, THE DARKNESS HIDETH NOT FROM THEE; BUT THE NIGHT SHINETH AS THE DAY: THE DARKNESS AND THE LIGHT ARE BOTH ALIKE TO THEE.

The reason they are alike is because He has hidden treasures in the darkness, hidden things of Christ, the true light. This is why the 7th day in Genesis was light. It wasn't because there was no darkness, but rather that the darkness had been swallowed up or covered over of light.

The ark of the covenant bears this witness, with the tablets of the law that were covered over by the mercy seat. The law ministered condemnation which ministered death to the hearer (the flesh), because of sin.

If you put a lid on a box, it's immediately DARK in there, and the ark was essentially a wooden box overlaid within and without with gold. The ark of the covenant also represents man as an overcomer with two anointings, one within (inner court) and one without (outer court), and a crown (mercy seat). To he that overcometh, will I give a CROWN of life. He sees those things that are not, as though they were.

This whole process those that ARE pressing in to partake of the Feast of Tabernacles, ties in with the bones Ezekiel saw.

Bones without meat on them = first veil of our flesh laid down. (earth shaken)
DRY bones=those that have laid down the Christ veil of His flesh, because Spirit is water/life of them. (heaven shaken).

This is why He has "dried up" many in this hour, just as He dried up the river for Elijah to make him move on. We have to lay down all the giftings, titles, ministries, ect. at His feet, to receive more. We must become those DRY bones, before He will clothe us with His glory. He took on the likeness of sinful flesh, and was made of no reputation, and those that are pressing into for the prize of the high calling in Christ Jesus, are expected to do the same. The servant is not greater than the master.

This is why He goes into unto this feast IN SECRET, because it begins as a sovereign work one on one with Him. Don't expect anyone to understand, unless they are going through it themselves. It looks bad, not pleasant to the lust of the eyes at all. It makes you look like a reprobate, having been called out of the churches, laying everything down. It also doesn't feel good to the lust of the flesh to be singled out as "backslidden", "reprobate", ect., to be made of no reputation. But the difference between the 60 fold and the 100 fold is 40 years on the backside of the desert, being led by Him and Him alone.

So what happens after we have been stripped of our flesh and laid down His flesh to become as dry bones? This is where He makes "fat" our bones. He puts the glorified word/flesh back on them, ie. that which has been thru the fire. Bread must be both pierced and baked to be fit to feed the nations.

They SHALL PICK UP serpents, and if they drink any deadly thing it will not hurt them.
When God told Moses to CAST DOWN His rod of authority = veil of Christ's flesh as it pertains to coming outside the camp and dying, ie. laying down of all, it then took on the IMAGE OF SINFUL FLESH, but it CONSUMED the serpent natures of the uncircumcised Egyptians.

This principle was also illustrated by God telling Joseph to take the Christ child and hide Him in Egypt (a type of the image of sinful flesh), that He might grow and mature in the things of His Father. He also told them to keep Him there until Herod was dead. Herod is a type of the carnal mind. "Herod" is seeking to kill all sons that are 2 years (2 days/2000 years) and under (Pentecost and Passover realms) right now, which is why we must obey the Father and get out of Bethlehem.

Bethlehem comes from two Hebrew words, Beyth and lechem, ie. house and bread. More on this in another note, but staying in the house of bread/letter, and not moving as the Spirit says move in this hour, is allowing Herod, the carnal mind in type, to rule and we must take on the mind of Christ and allow Him to finish the work in us.

Matthew 2: 12 And being warned of God in a dream that they should not return to Herod, they departed into their own country another way. 13 And when they were departed, behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word : for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him. 14 When he arose , he took the young child and his mother by night, and departed into Egypt: 15 And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son. 16 Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently enquired of the wise men.

And then the Lord God told Him to pick the rod of authority back up, ie. after suffering with Him, we are glorified with Him = MIRACLES to set ALL creation free. He did His first miracle at Cana, which runs into word used in Psalms (I believe it was) that means "possessor of heaven and earth" ie. the ALmighty God, the Father God that is in our new heaven/glorified Christ AND our new earth/glorified body. This is why it says, God was IN Christ reconciling all men unto Himself.

This rod of Moses, ties in with the PICKING UP (catching up) of the TWELVE BASKETS OF FRAGMENTS = 12 tribes of humanity He "fragmented" Himself in, after the 5 (grace ministered thru ministry of 5 fold) fishes and 2 loaves (witness of Son and Spirit together = inner court) dispensation has ENDED. It is time for the Father to come on the scene, and FULFILL the promise with HIMSELF. Blessings....

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Re: Experiencing the Tabernacle
« Reply #88 on: October 21, 2010, 02:34:38 AM »
Isaiah 25:6 And in this mountain shall the LORD of hosts make unto all people a feast of fat things, a feast of wines on the lees, of fat things full of marrow, of wines on the lees well refined. 7 And he will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the vail that is spread over all nations.


Isaiah 25:6,7 is one of my favorite scriptures of all.  Beautiful post.

But to this day whenever Moses is read, a veil lies over their heart; but whenever a person turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty, and we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the spirit of the Lord.
(2Co 3:15-18)

The word of God is veiled. Only a broken and contrite heart allows the unveiling. May the Bridegroom find His Bride willing to let Him lift her veil.


For this reason I too, having heard of the faith in the Lord Jesus which exists among you and your love for all the saints, do not cease giving thanks for you, while making mention of you in my prayers; that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of Him. I pray that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened(unveiled), so that you will know what is the hope of His calling, what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the saints, and what is the surpassing greatness of His power toward us who believe.
(Eph 1:15-19)

If we love Him we turn to Him and the veil is removed. If we love the world and the things that are in the world the veil remains.

And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are lost, in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. For we do not preach ourselves but Christ Jesus as Lord, and ourselves as your bond-servants for Jesus' sake. For God, who said, "Light shall shine out of darkness," is the One who has shone in our hearts to give the Light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ.
(2Co 4:3-6)



Oh My Lord God...... I feel as if I am about to soar. Your word is SO AWESOME!


Psa 43:3  O send out thy light and thy truth: let them lead me; let them bring me unto thy holy hill, and to thy tabernacles.

 Let us go into His dwelling place; Let us worship at His footstool. Arise, O LORD, to Your resting place, You and the ark of Your strength. Let Your priests be clothed with righteousness, And let Your godly ones sing for joy. For the sake of David Your servant, Do not turn away the face of Your anointed.
(Psa 132:4-10)

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Re: Experiencing the Tabernacle
« Reply #89 on: October 21, 2010, 04:04:46 AM »
 :cloud9: AMEN
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Re: Experiencing the Tabernacle
« Reply #90 on: October 21, 2010, 10:07:34 AM »
Not sure it really belongs in this thread:
http://www.1260-1290-days-bible-prophecy.org/#Tabernacle
 
Click all the sub links because the patterns showed are  :bgdance:
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Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: Experiencing the Tabernacle
« Reply #91 on: October 21, 2010, 02:08:06 PM »
 :cloud9: Interesting. Will read some more of this site when I have more time. Clicked on the "mirror" title, and that is a good description of my experience of seeing the cross, and then time backward and time forward "exploding" out of that. It would be like a mirror to each other. Thanks for the post...... :girlheart:
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Re: Experiencing the Tabernacle
« Reply #92 on: October 21, 2010, 03:52:48 PM »
I have also seen this thing of time exploding backwards and forwards from the cross. The relationship between time and the eternal is sublime.
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Re: Experiencing the Tabernacle
« Reply #93 on: October 21, 2010, 04:34:38 PM »
Just open the I gave. Don't scroll up or down (yet).
What you see now are Tabernacle related articles.
Just read the article about the size of the Temple curtain and you know what the articles is about.
Numbers like 1260 and 1320 pop up everywere in the Temple. But they also are the timespans between major events and prophesies.
Tabernacle = Temple of time
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Card, EW,
The year 0 is the mirror point. Things are mirrored backward in time. But does the mirror also works forward in time?
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John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Re: Experiencing the Tabernacle
« Reply #94 on: October 21, 2010, 06:05:10 PM »
   I once read the words, "Surely goodness and mercy will follow me all the days of my life and I will dwell in the house of the Lord forever", and I saw this vision of the goodness of God behind me and before me, "For all things work to the good for those who love God and are called according to His purpose." The purpose is that we be conformed to the image of Christ. This is the goodness of God going on before me. Whenever a man turns to the Lord the veil is taken away, the kingdom of heaven comes within, "Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven". "Repent and return, so that your sins may be wiped away, that you may receive times of refreshing from the presence of the Lord". He steps into the Now of God. He is living in the moment, the twinkling of an eye. "Today, if you hear His voice, harden not your heart. All that has gone before, though meant for evil, has worked for good. All that will come, will be the continuation of this good- as we "Abide in the Vine" and bear fruit that will remain- works prepared from the foundation of the world that we should walk in them.
If we get through the veil and we all live in that zero hour, the DAY approaches, drawing ever nearer to full noon, when all will shine with the glory of God. I think this is what was going on in the early church.

I think this is why the Lord exhorts us not to love the world and the things that are in the world. To be like the lily and the sparrow. To travel light. It is impossible to serve God and mammon because mammon takes us out of the Now and into the thorns and thistles that choke out the fruitfulness of the branches. Discipleship is  surely more a discipline in lightness than it is a discipline of knowledge. Only within the unencumbered can the manifestation of truth grow beyond the "knowledge" of it.

The wind blows where it wills and you hear the sound of it and you don't know where it is going or from where it comes, so it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.
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Re: Experiencing the Tabernacle
« Reply #95 on: October 21, 2010, 06:07:59 PM »
I have also seen this thing of time exploding backwards and forwards from the cross. The relationship between time and the eternal is sublime.

 :cloud9: That's awesome, Eaglesway.....you're the first person I've met that has told me that.   :thumbsup: It's hard to describe, isn't it?
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Re: Experiencing the Tabernacle
« Reply #96 on: October 21, 2010, 06:19:19 PM »
Just open the I gave. Don't scroll up or down (yet).
What you see now are Tabernacle related articles.
Just read the article about the size of the Temple curtain and you know what the articles is about.
Numbers like 1260 and 1320 pop up everywere in the Temple. But they also are the timespans between major events and prophesies.
Tabernacle = Temple of time
 :2c:
 
 
Card, EW,
The year 0 is the mirror point. Things are mirrored backward in time. But does the mirror also works forward in time?

 :cloud9: I think it would have to. But what I saw was limited to scenes in the Word. It exploded so fast my mind was not able to catch and hold much of what was communicated to me about those scenes. It was as if it was a computer download. I knew it went into my spirit and would be retrievable (the Spirit will bring things to our REMEMBRANCE) as needed.

I felt my spirit actually spinning within me (whirlwind?) and I went to the floor. My one friend had the same thing going on, minus the "download". There were 5 of us in the glory of His presence for 5 hours; the others went face down. When it started, and I blurted out, "What's happening to us?", He spoke to me, "The priesthood is changing." I realized later it happened during Feast of Tabernacles that year. Blessings....
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Re: Experiencing the Tabernacle
« Reply #97 on: October 21, 2010, 06:21:15 PM »
   I once read the words, "Surely goodness and mercy will follow me all the days of my life and I will dwell in the house of the Lord forever", and I saw this vision of the goodness of God behind me and before me, "For all things work to the good for those who love God and are called according to His purpose." The purpose is that we be conformed to the image of Christ. This is the goodness of God going on before me. Whenever a man turns to the Lord the veil is taken away, the kingdom of heaven comes within, "Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven". "Repent and return, so that your sins may be wiped away, that you may receive times of refreshing from the presence of the Lord". He steps into the Now of God. He is living in the moment, the twinkling of an eye. "Today, if you hear His voice, harden not your heart. All that has gone before, though meant for evil, has worked for good. All that will come, will be the continuation of this good- as we "Abide in the Vine" and bear fruit that will remain- works prepared from the foundation of the world that we should walk in them.
If we get through the veil and we all live in that zero hour, the DAY approaches, drawing ever nearer to full noon, when all will shine with the glory of God. I think this is what was going on in the early church.

I think this is why the Lord exhorts us not to love the world and the things that are in the world. To be like the lily and the sparrow. To travel light. It is impossible to serve God and mammon because mammon takes us out of the Now and into the thorns and thistles that choke out the fruitfulness of the branches. Discipleship is  surely more a discipline in lightness than it is a discipline of knowledge. Only within the unencumbered can the manifestation of truth grow beyond the "knowledge" of it.

The wind blows where it wills and you hear the sound of it and you don't know where it is going or from where it comes, so it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.

 :cloud9: Magnificent..... :thumbsup:
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Re: Experiencing the Tabernacle
« Reply #98 on: October 21, 2010, 09:22:20 PM »
It is hard to express eternal things in the language of the fiinite....to see thru the veil of time and death. But before there was time. Before there was death. In the beginning, the thought in Gods mind was of a Lamb slain. I believe everything else- creation, chaos, redemption, reconciliation and restoration into the new creation- all proceed from that expression of love within which the invisible God spoke His love into the heart of every being. This elevates the cross to such an extent that its beauty overwhelms all else. I feel so inadequate in attempting to express it, but I try nevertheless, because all the wisdom and beauty of God's love and purpose are in it.
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« Reply #99 on: October 21, 2010, 10:05:12 PM »
 :cloud9: Amen..... :thumbsup:
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