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B_T:
I don't know whether it is the right forum to ask because I don't know what Universalits believe... Some churches reject speaking in tongues, others not... What about you? Do you speak in tongues and how do you feel doing so?
I'll say for myself later in this thread...
Oh, yes, I should also add that I've heard there's yet churches where pastors preach that if you don't speak in tongues you don't have the Spirit and you are not saved... So let's add to this thread: is it necessary to speak in tongues in order to be saved?

97531:

--- Quote ---is it necessary to speak in tongues in order to be saved
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No.

The evidence of which is speaking in tongues is a Pentecostal/Charismatic doctrine and is not founded on scripture.

Tongues (known languages but unknown to the believer) is for a sign to non-believers who will hear a word in their own language.

Private tongues is for self edification and communion with God but some may not all agree.

The problem is that in Pentecostal/Charismatic circles, because of the evidence notion, some people "learn" this and IMO is merely incoherent babbling.  Some have true tongues and when you hear it there will be proper "words" and "phonetics" as in any language, not merely 10 or so words that are repeated over and over.  Even Jesus taught against vain repetitions.

You may want to explore this link

A study in speaking in Tongues

Blessings

Pleroo:

--- Quote from: B_T on August 10, 2007, 06:47:44 PM ---I don't know whether it is the right forum to ask because I don't know what Universalits believe... Some churches reject speaking in tongues, others not... What about you? Do you speak in tongues and how do you feel doing so?
I'll say for myself later in this thread...
Oh, yes, I should also add that I've heard there's yet churches where pastors preach that if you don't speak in tongues you don't have the Spirit and you are not saved... So let's add to this thread: is it necessary to speak in tongues in order to be saved?

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No, I don't speak in tongues.  I do not have that gift nor do I have a "personal prayer language".  In my church body (which, by the way, is decidedly ET), in theory, speaking in tongues is not rejected, but in practice it is not evidenced among the members.

From what I've heard from people who do pray in tongues it is a blessing to them and I would welcome it in my own life, personally.  I do not believe it is necessary for salvation.  I do wonder, however, if it is evidence of being filled with the Holy Spirit and that lack of it is evidence that I am hindering the Spirit's power in my own life.

B_T:
I personally speak in tongues, but it is more like a personal prayer. I don't do it where I'm not suppose to do it.
There is something disturbing I have seen from other church members... And this is repeating two or the words... Maybe God knows and he has decided to give him few words... But anyway, I still continue to think that God's Spirit should not be limited to three words... And what would an unbeliever say if he enters such a church?

studier:

--- Quote from: B_T on August 10, 2007, 06:47:44 PM ---I don't know whether it is the right forum to ask because I don't know what Universalits believe... Some churches reject speaking in tongues, others not... What about you? Do you speak in tongues and how do you feel doing so?
I'll say for myself later in this thread...
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Yes. I operate out of most the gifts.

1 Corinthians 1:5-8
For in him you have been enriched in every way"in all your speaking and in all your knowledge" because our testimony about Christ was confirmed in you. Therefore you do not lack any spiritual gift as you eagerly wait for our Lord Jesus Christ to be revealed. He will keep you strong to the end, so that you will be blameless on the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.

My father grew up in midwest Canada and has a grade 7 education. He never desired to learn another language and  in about 1989-1990, we were in church when all of a sudden my dad just went into a strange dilect. It was deep, and foreign, it sounded like nothing we have heard. As he was speaking it, a woman began praising God really loud and then a group of people started to jump and down, as my dad kept speaking. The praise and worship leader at the time, and that group began "Amening" at the same time, as if they were responding to statements made in this foreign tongue. It turns out my dad was speaking their native language out of Africa, it was a tribal dilect barely spoken outside Africa, even among immigrants to Canada. These people in the back were new to Canada, and they believed God told them to come, but they had been suffering and questioned if they truly heard God in their lives. My dad spoke in tongues and confirmed it in their own langauge. I was there, heard it and confirmed the witness.

1 Corinthians 12:4-11
There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit. There are different kinds of service, but the same Lord. There are different kinds of working, but the same God works all of them in all men.

Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. To one there is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom, to another the message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues. All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he gives them to each one, just as he determines.

From testimony and confirmatin of others, there has been message of wisdom, message of knowledge, faith, gifts of healing, miraculous powers, prophesy, distinguishing between spirits and speaking in tongues in my life and through my life. I can give you example over example of non-natural occurances and extra-sensory information, which the Lord has given me concerning times of crisis.

So speaking in tongues, whether spiritual or literal, by the Spirit is real regardless of what others may say. Cannot deny what I have seen, heard and experienced.

That doesn't mean there are counterfit gifts, I have also seen those in action.



--- Quote ---Oh, yes, I should also add that I've heard there's yet churches where pastors preach that if you don't speak in tongues you don't have the Spirit and you are not saved... So let's add to this thread: is it necessary to speak in tongues in order to be saved?
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No, it is not nessesary to operate in the gifts to be saved. Even the apostle Paul said not all speak in tongues, so even from a non-universalist standpoint, those who teach that tongues are a pre-requisit to demonstrate the fulfillment of the spirit and in inference represent salvation, are wrong.

1 Corinthians 12:29-31
Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues? Do all interpret?

But eagerly desire the greater gifts, and now I will show you the most excellent way....LOVE

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