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Does Anyone Here Discipline Their Body?
« on: July 18, 2008, 09:02:06 PM »
I Cor 9:27
but I discipline my body and make it my slave, so that, after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified

If physical exercise profiteth little....what was Paul talking about here? Does anyone here discipline their bodies so as not to be "disqualified" in the way that Paul speaks about? What would that include? If no physical ritual changes us spiritually, what about physical exercise? Is this just so that Paul is able to be "all things to all people" in order to "save some?"

And yes, I am trying to avoid the gym! :laughing7:
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Re: Does Anyone Here Discipline Their Body?
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2008, 12:44:11 AM »
I Cor 9:27
but I discipline my body and make it my slave, so that, after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified

If physical exercise profiteth little....what was Paul talking about here? Does anyone here discipline their bodies so as not to be "disqualified" in the way that Paul speaks about? What would that include? If no physical ritual changes us spiritually, what about physical exercise? Is this just so that Paul is able to be "all things to all people" in order to "save some?"

And yes, I am trying to avoid the gym! :laughing7:


Yo Joyful... means full of CHRIST...Great name.

Me.

Paul an ex pharisee ALSO needed to subject his body( heart and mind)  to the TRUTH and not fall away to the TRUTH of the era which was..

Rom 2:17  Behold, thou art called a Jew, and restest in the law, and makest thy boast of God,


 Rom 2:18  And knowest [his] will, and approvest the things that are more excellent, being instructed out of the law;


 Rom 2:19  And art confident that thou thyself art a guide of the blind, a light of them which are in darkness,


 Rom 2:20  An instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, which hast the form of knowledge and of the truth in the law.

He like many before him were raised in the traditions of their fathers.

as for the Latter about going to the gym..DONT GO,..for mine I believe what paul means is this in context of the verses prior...exercise meaning to abstain from eating meats etc ,profits little ( nothing)

1Ti 4:1  Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;


 1Ti 4:2  Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;


 1Ti 4:3  Forbidding to marry, [and commanding] to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.


 1Ti 4:4  For every creature of God [is] good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:


 1Ti 4:5  For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.


 1Ti 4:6  If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained.


 1Ti 4:7  But refuse profane and old wives' fables, and exercise thyself [rather] unto godliness.


 1Ti 4:8  For bodily exercise profiteth little: but godliness is profitable unto all things, having promise of the life that now is, and of that which is to come.

Blessings
Taffy
Isa 29:18 And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness.

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Re: Does Anyone Here Discipline Their Body?
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2008, 05:06:23 AM »
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Taffy, you are my NEW BEST FRIEND here! I was really starting to worry about finding gym shorts in my size!! LOL!!

On a serious note, your post is wonderfully clear and precise, easy to understand. Thank you!
Joyce :)

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Re: Does Anyone Here Discipline Their Body?
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2008, 05:51:07 PM »
:Gdance:
Taffy, you are my NEW BEST FRIEND here! I was really starting to worry about finding gym shorts in my size!! LOL!!

On a serious note, your post is wonderfully clear and precise, easy to understand. Thank you!
Joyce :)

Tis my pleasure to meet you  NEW friend :icon_flower:
Blessings
Taffy
Isa 29:18 And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness.

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Re: Does Anyone Here Discipline Their Body?
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2008, 07:17:01 PM »
I think Paul means that we should not always follow the demands of our bodies. It's good to become a little bit more independent in the spirit, knowing that the body, though not an evil thing, can ensnare the mind so that it is preoccupied with the mundane and that this then distracts us from walking in the spirit. For example, you may throw in a fast sometimes, do small pilgrimages, reserve a day for wandering in the woods, etc, so that the body is stressed and in effect shown that the spirit is master in the house.

I don't do much of that myself, but I believe this is actually what the bible recommends. The body is like a dog, in a way, you must teach him and discipline him so that he remains a docile creature.

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Re: Does Anyone Here Discipline Their Body?
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2008, 08:54:50 PM »
Hi there, anti_nietzsche  :icon_flower:
I am so glad that you brought this up! There has to be a balance!

I became, for a while, very apathetic toward that type of discipline. I reasoned that God is only intrested in my spiritual growth....and since we will take on immortality at some point, what purpose would there be in taking up the time and effort to cause my physical body to do what my spirit told it to? I'd "already been there, done that" in the pentecostal church....the ability to fast and work long hard hours in "service" to others, was practically the equivelant of salvation!

And I do see that, as Taffy pointed out, that there are TWO kinds of BODILY EXERCISE being discussed in the NT...

one is the physical exercise of the physical body:

1Ti 4:8
For bodily exercise profiteth little: but godliness is profitable unto all things, having promise of the life that now is, and of that which is to come.

The other is the spiritual exercise of the spiritual body, that Taffy pointed out:

Paul an ex pharisee ALSO needed to subject his body( heart and mind)  to the TRUTH and not fall away to the TRUTH of the era

I'm searching for a scripture on that....do you have one Taffy?
Joyce :)

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Re: Does Anyone Here Discipline Their Body?
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2008, 07:54:36 AM »
I think Paul means that we should not always follow the demands of our bodies. It's good to become a little bit more independent in the spirit, knowing that the body, though not an evil thing, can ensnare the mind so that it is preoccupied with the mundane and that this then distracts us from walking in the spirit. For example, you may throw in a fast sometimes, do small pilgrimages, reserve a day for wandering in the woods, etc, so that the body is stressed and in effect shown that the spirit is master in the house.

I don't do much of that myself, but I believe this is actually what the bible recommends. The body is like a dog, in a way, you must teach him and discipline him so that he remains a docile creature.

Hi anti-nietzsche... beautiful answer! I feel the same.  :thumbsup:
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