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Offline fullarmor2

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Rich man , Lazarus
« on: November 24, 2009, 11:54:41 PM »
      I had a thought today about this.   Lets say it is literal since Jesus used names.   And my thought is from the perspective of one who is leaning towards believing that after people die, they enter an unconscious state in the "unseen".   Now, consider these people.  I think its obvious they would have lived sometime between Adam and Christ.    And my thought was,    if its literal,   then when Lazarus died he entered the unconscious state, to await the resurrection  of old testament saints at Jesus' resurrection.  At which time he was "carried away unto Abraham's bosom" ,  with everyone else.     But,  the rich man is still unconscious in the unseen,  waiting for the resurrection unto aionios punishment at White Throne.   And from the flames he will make his request regarding his bretheren .  Not realizing that more than two thousand years have passed.   He does not know that, since it seemed instant to him while he was asleep in the grave.   Which explains why he made the request about his family members,  not realizing where he is in time.    So,  the last part of the story will not come to pass until the rich man is resurrected  at White Throne. 
    Now,   I'm not saying I believe this or not,  I'm simply considering what could be the case if "soul sleep"   is a correct  belief.
For all those who live in the shadow of death,  a glorious light has dawned!  And for all those who stumble in the darkness,   behold,   your light has come!!

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Re: Rich man , Lazarus
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2009, 09:26:49 AM »
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Not realizing that more than two thousand years have passed. He does not know that, since it seemed instant to him while he was asleep in the grave.
Didn't the rich men recognize Lazarus? Doesn't that mean they should have died around the same time?

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Re: Rich man , Lazarus
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2009, 04:46:01 PM »
 :cloud9: Not necessarily, if it were true and not parabolic, because you "know" in the Spirit who people are/were, ie. there is nothing hid from Him. How did the disciples know who Elijah and Moses were on the mount? Blessings...
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Re: Rich man , Lazarus
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2009, 05:27:55 PM »
because you "know" in the Spirit
But FA wrote
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Lets say it is literal since Jesus used names
So no spiritual things IMO.
Plus does someone in the 'fire' has that spiritual link? My guess is that the lack of that link is part of the reason for being there???
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...