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Was anyone else ever scared to death of Revelations?

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Akira Takahashi:
I can remember avoiding Revelations like it was a plague.  Why?  To be perfectly blunt, it turned the idea of a loving God on its head and instead transformed Him into a vengeful God, ready to incinerate everyone but a few.  The Left Behind series didn't help me overcome my phobia for Revelations, either.

What made me think of this?  A group of Jehova's Witnesses made their way to my door (how they found me I don't know), but rather than their normal rhettoric, they started talking about how we're living in the End Times, and they asked me if I'd ever thought about that.  I admitted that I had, and when they asked me what I thought of that, I replied, "I'm terrified."

Now, here's where I stopped trying to explain my issues with Revelations altogether.  They assured me that I was fine (although, since I'm not part of The Watchtower, I'm positive they didn't think I was 'fine'), and that the End Times was simply the end of the wicked.

Now, when I say, "I'm terrified," I mean not or myself, but for the very wicked these people are referring to.  Why is it that so many Christians assume that when we're talking about eternal bliss or punishment we're always looking out for Number One?  Is it so wrong to care for the wicked?  Aren't we supposed to place ourselves last in the rank of things?  Revelations doesn't scare me when it concerns myself, but it scares the crap out of me when I think about the 'wicked' people I know; but, alas, no one has an explanation for that kind of paranoia.  After all, the only thing that matters is that I'm saved, right?  :dontknow:

jabcat:
Wow, you've covered a lot of ground here, from the JW's to the plagues :).  A couple of thoughts I have is that Paul was apparently very concerned about what he called his brethren, the fellow Jews, to the point of wishing himself accursed so they could be saved.  It sounds as if you have a good heart for the lost, and IMO that's a good thing.  I think I need to be even more concerned and reaching out to others.

Another thing wrt the JW's...they said you're OK?  They don't believe in UR, so were they saying you weren't wicked or that if you "just got annihilated" it wouldn't be such a big deal? :Shoot:

Personally, I still think Revelation is at least a little unsettling, for one thing, there seems to be so much we generally don't understand, so I feel you on that.  A few things about that though...as I see Revelation, following the Lake of Fire, then the Tree of Life is for the healing of the nations, and there will be no more curse...also, scripture says "the end of the Lord is mercy".

God's blessing, James.

firstborn888:

--- Quote from: Akira Takahashi on April 29, 2008, 06:25:20 AM ---I can remember avoiding Revelations like it was a plague.  Why? 

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Only the carnal man has anything to fear. Why? Because his end is death. The carnal man's various names are NOT written in the book of life, and so is extinguished by the beautiful lake. The good news is your is fear is consumed by that fire (just like mine) and everyone else's.

blessings,
 - Byron

friarted:
About the JW's thinking that you're "fine", they believe in the annihilation of the wicked, the Heavenly reward of the 144000, and the resurrection of the vast majority of humanity on Paradise Earth for re-education and opportunity to inherit Eternal Life. So they put most people in that last category.

shibboleth:

--- Quote ---What made me think of this?  A group of Jehova's Witnesses made their way to my door (how they found me I don't know), but rather than their normal rhettoric, they started talking about how we're living in the End Times, and they asked me if I'd ever thought about that.  I admitted that I had, and when they asked me what I thought of that, I replied, "I'm terrified."
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In the 1970's I used to read everything I could get my hands on about the book of Revelation. I read Hal Lindsey, Salem Kirban and others. Their writings just made me upset and terrified about the end of the world. I have found that these writers, especially Hal, just recycle their writings and put new dates and names on their material. More money has been made on Revelation than any other book of the Bible, probably more money than all the other books combined.

Now I see Rev. as a symbolic book. I haven't studied it thouroughly yet, but I will someday.

As far as the JW's normal rhetoric; the only things they even wanted to talk to me about was the end times and how we could live in the celestial kingdom if we were good people. Just remember that God loves you and don't let anyone tell you otherwise!!!! :icon_flower:

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