I see I lost track of this thread.. I'm trying not to do that anymore!
I know this hasn't been added to for a bit, but I think these things are important and are supposed to be understood so I rather like discussing them.. sorry I disappeared..
Not only is the seven ages of the church silly and erroneous, but so is a 7 year tribulation, the math is simple - daniel 12:11,12 (45 days, 35 plus "ten days").daniel 12:11,12
11 From the era when the continuous ritual is taken away, and to the setting of the abomination of desolation, is a thousand two hundred and ninety days."
12 Happy is he who will tarry and attain to the thousand three hundred and thirty-five days!
1290 and 1335 days
Where are the 35 and 45 days?
White Wings, the 45 days is the difference between 1,335 and 1,290... if the abomination, which imo, the 'last days' fulfillment will be the 666 goings on, is "set-up" 1,290 days or roughly 3 & 1/2 years later - or another way of saying it, if 666 is "set-up on day 1,290 and happy is the one who comes to day 1,335 (which is 45 days later) what "happy" event occurs which, imo, seems to cut short the 666.. Logic is what suggests to me that Revelation 13:18 when "no one can buy or sell w/o" 666 at some time escalates into the "will be killed/beheaded" of Rev 20:4. The letter to Smyrna mentions "ten days tribulation" which seems to me logical this is what some call 'the great trib' when folks are executed.. Either or what ever way, the question remains, what happy event occurs on day 45 of 666?
The doctrine of "the tribulation and the great tribulation together lasting 7 years" is an error, which actually has to do with the world peace so called ratified or celebrated for 7 years but already, in the midst or middle of it, they "take away" the daily sacrifice (or place of??) away from Israel.. not hard to assume this is something or area disputed in Israel/Jerusalem, someplace where sacrifices of praise, prayers and thanksgiving are offered every day.
Which reminds me..
I've tried mightily to study the Greek concerning what Apostle Paul stated about Christ's coming to "catch away" the Body of Christ, & events in Revelation, but the only meaningful clue that I've been able to discover that would separate Christ's coming to put down AntiChrist & his coming for the Body of Christ is the two events may not occur at exactly the same moment in time. Paul's description of events sound similar enough to me that it could happen at exactly the time he defeats AntiChrist, but I'm ambivalent about it to say the least. I don't think there is enough information in the bible that we could conclude it one way or the other.
Paul, I don't think they are two events because of some key scripture.. 2 thess 1:7 says Jesus comes with fire and angels, and Matthew 24:29-31 says "immediately after the tribulation of those days.. He will send out His angels to gather His elect from the four corners (winds) of the earth"
In the Book of Revelation it says He comes on a white horse (at which time I believe is the 7th and last trump, with the armies of heaven with Him. The armies of the nations are gathered to fight against Him (
) 1 Corinthians15:52 says "at the last trump, the dead (in Christ) will be raised and those alive (in Christ) will be changed" - mortal will put on immortality and corruption, fallen nature will put on incorruption, i.e. the brides pure, white bridal clothes/linen.
Then, His feet, it says (Zechariah 14:4) will touch down upon the Mt of Olives (from where He left and the angels said "why are you looking up into heaven this same Jesus as you-saw going up into heaven will return in like manner" (be seen)
And, back to the Book of Revelation, He will trample the wine press of the wrath of God (the results of man's 'apart' from God, doings - i.e. apart from God= disaster & would perish)
marie quote - "And don't forget! Just like the prophets spoke of the two advents of Jesus as a blend of the two, so too with Bible prophecy.. an 'immediate' fulfillment and an 'end' days one without any gap being apparent..
Paul - Which "two advents" are you speaking of here?
The two advents of Christ, when He came the 1st time, was born, crucified, rose and ascended, and His second (long) advent which begins at His return at the last of the "Trumpets".. and running right up until the time all the things/ the Kingdom is handed over (back to) the Father and He, His throne and the New Jerusalem 'come down' to abide and "Tabernacle" upon the new earth with mankind..