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thinktank:
I wasn't sure to post this dream I had of the rapture about a week ago, but the lord gave me a sign that he wanted me to prophesy, but I did not take the sign seriously. But after cardinal posting there is no rapture I am compelled to post this dream.

The dream
I was changed into a spirit ghostly type being and began to elevate quickly towards the sky and saw other people elevating and being happy, but I noticed I was not ready to leave the Earth. As I thought these thoughts I began to slow down and felt heavier, but eventually I made it to heaven. But this heaven was veiled by me, so heaven was not as good as I expected, but Jesus was there giving a speech to a group of people. I could not make out what he was saying. But then I talked to another person and said I have to go back to the earth, "I have unfinished business".

So I think the Lord is saying to me that the saints or x number of  saints will return to earth in their supernatural bodies, just like Jesus did after his resurrection.



Molly:
wow!  Great dream.   


"Now learn a lesson from the fig tree. When its branches bud and its leaves begin to sprout, you know that summer is near.

In the same way, when you see all these things taking place, you can know that his return is very near, right at the door.

I tell you the truth, this generation will not pass from the scene before all these things take place.

--Mark 13



I've been thinking about this passage recently.   A lot of people feel it refers to the founding of Israel in 1948.

But, I was thinking recently maybe it is referring to the rising numbers of Messianic Jews we are seeing now, because that fits in with the tender shoots budding in the Spring [the fig tree is Israel].--Especially since he says, you won't see me again until you say blessed is he who comes in the name of the LORD.

Either way, we are this generation.

thinktank:
 :cloud9:

That's interesting. Without Jesus how can Israel blossom. So maybe Israel was planted in 1948, but it has taken a while for the tree to blossom and eventually grow leaves and fruit, worthy for the master.

I have always found it puzzling concerning the birth of Israel as to whether it was by Gods hand or mans hand, since scriptures point to the restoration of Jerusalem/Israel, coupled with the Lord, but todays Israel is mostly secular and practice Judaism and Islam. But what you said could bring greater understanding that a tree takes while to grow and produce fruit and there are signs the size of a mans hand, that Israel are accepting Jesus of Bethlehem as the messiah.

jabcat:
I agree..  :thumbsup:

Nathan:

--- Quote from: Molly on November 18, 2011, 09:29:47 PM ---wow!  Great dream.   


"Now learn a lesson from the fig tree. When its branches bud and its leaves begin to sprout, you know that summer is near.

In the same way, when you see all these things taking place, you can know that his return is very near, right at the door.

I tell you the truth, this generation will not pass from the scene before all these things take place.

--Mark 13



I've been thinking about this passage recently.   A lot of people feel it refers to the founding of Israel in 1948.

But, I was thinking recently maybe it is referring to the rising numbers of Messianic Jews we are seeing now, because that fits in with the tender shoots budding in the Spring [the fig tree is Israel].--Especially since he says, you won't see me again until you say blessed is he who comes in the name of the LORD.

Either way, we are this generation.

--- End quote ---

Really?  How in the world can you take "this generation" completely out of it's context and place it 2000 years after the fact?  If it were to be 2000 years later, then please explain why Jesus didn't state that?  Daniel was given the SAME DREAM as John's Revelation of Jesus and yet Daniel was told to SEAL IT UP and John was told to LEAVE IT OPEN . . .why?  Because it wasn't for Daniel's day, but it WAS for John's day.  If God would tell Daniel that it wasn't for his day, then IF it wasn't meant for the generation Jesus was in, then why did he instead say that it was?

The leader of the  . . .no disrespect to TT for his dream, but there are reason's why we are told not to lean on our own understanding.  And as many people out there who've had dreams want to believe they're from God, they're just not.  The leader of the Mormons had a dream and look where that ended up.  If there is ever a time for a caution, I would say this would be one.  Dreams come from the subconscious.  The subconscious feeds from consciousness, aware and unaware.  A belief in something can create a dream about something.  And because there's a dream doesn't really make it truth.

Where does this dream then fit in with UR?  If we're reconciled through the cross, you're saying that apparently the affects of the cross haven't reached you yet?  That you're not "ready"?  If God is light, where was he in the dream? 

As far as waiting for Israel. . . .think about what we're saying here.  We are actually saying that the lower realm has priority over the spiritual realm.  What about the other passages that say "we" are all Israel spiritually.  We are all circumcised not by hands of men . . .the thing that set Israel apart was the circumcision.  That's what sets us apart from earthiness.  It's power has been cut away from where the seed of life is released through us.  God isn't "waiting" for flesh to line up with his spiritual alignment.  He already knows it's outcome because he proclaimed it.  he's not waiting for the inhabitants on the earth to become righteous, he's already proclaimed that. 

When you transform the inside, you will see the outside manifest the change.  When you see the completion in the spirit, you will see the completion in the flesh follow.  It's kinda like the hell thing as well as the rapture and everything else that distracts us.  A message is trumpeted with a question . . ."Why seek ye the living among the dead?"  And 40 days later "Why do you continue to stare up into the clouds???"  The kingdom doesn't come by observation.  The signs of the times Jesus was sharing with them was not about something 2000 years later.  It was about the atrocities that were to befall on them THEN.

Sorry if this sounds forceful.  I shouldn't present it that way.  These things are merely things I believe God not only is showing me, but others who are willing to release their grip on the ever-changing natural state around them.  It's just that  . . .well . . .I've already said too much.

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