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Re: Prophecy
« Reply #1050 on: November 13, 2012, 10:32:29 PM »
I agree with you CHB. I would never volunteer my time or do fundraisers or even talk to people to "convert" them to a particular candidate. I only vote at presidential and sometimes then I just vote for whoever sent me the least amount of mailers or had the least amount of TV ads, etc. :laughing7:
It was something I prayed about(whether or not to vote) but since this is a republic and not a democracy my personal vote has never counted anyway. None of the people I'd like to see run for office always seem to or drop out early when they realize they have to lie and "play the game" to get the nomination.
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« Reply #1051 on: November 13, 2012, 11:19:51 PM »
Hey everyone...I just been watching a very interesting video on you tube.  a messianic jew by the name of

  Jonathan Kahn...9 harbingers of national judgement on the Isreal of God in Isaaih 9;10

  gazet stone we will rebuild..a defiant unrepentant spirit[2o ton rock at ground zero]

   sycamore cut down..sycamore at ground zero...araz tree..conifer tree/panisha planted as tree of hope

  at ground zero.

   way too many coincidences.  writing on the wall for babylon usa

  please look into it

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Re: Prophecy
« Reply #1052 on: November 14, 2012, 12:02:03 AM »
I think that how a person chooses to exercise their citizen rights is highly individual and we should not judge over such issues. I am very active politically, using my citizenship rights to advance the cause of justice and equity when I can. The fact that I am a Christian and prophetic affects the way I do so, and opens many opportunities for me to bear witness to my "citizenship from above".

I do not think everyone should do as I do, or see what I see. It is an individually held freedom under the laws of our nation AND under the will of our God. Let each one walk by his own conscience and stand in freedom.

Paul used his Roman citizenship to advance the gospel and to protpect himself from persecution on at least one occasion.

The prophets of Israel and Jesus spoke out against social inequity as well as spiritual wickedness, so I do the same, as I am led of the Spirit to do so.

I would not presume to judge how anyone else chosses to walk in these things.
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Re: Prophecy
« Reply #1053 on: November 14, 2012, 12:30:07 AM »
I am not saying any one shouldn't vote but personally I have never voted in my life and don't intend to. I don't believe we should become intangled with worldy affairs. I don't think Jesus or his disciples were concerned with government affairs. God choses who he wants to rule and we can not change one single thing.

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Is it a fair statement to make that in any culture, evil can only prevail when good men & women do nothing?

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« Reply #1054 on: November 14, 2012, 01:27:05 AM »
I think that how a person chooses to exercise their citizen rights is highly individual and we should not judge over such issues. I am very active politically, using my citizenship rights to advance the cause of justice and equity when I can. The fact that I am a Christian and prophetic affects the way I do so, and opens many opportunities for me to bear witness to my "citizenship from above".

I do not think everyone should do as I do, or see what I see. It is an individually held freedom under the laws of our nation AND under the will of our God. Let each one walk by his own conscience and stand in freedom.

Paul used his Roman citizenship to advance the gospel and to protpect himself from persecution on at least one occasion.

The prophets of Israel and Jesus spoke out against social inequity as well as spiritual wickedness, so I do the same, as I am led of the Spirit to do so.

I would not presume to judge how anyone else chosses to walk in these things.

I haven't voted for several years... but have developed a 3-step plan: Pray, Obey,Pay
all Scriptural-- Pray for all men, for those in authority  Obey those over you, and Jesus gave us an example and reason for paying taxes.

Last week some of the tenants here asked me if I voted... I just smiled and said "Yes, I've done my duty." They ask "Absentee ballot?"  I say "No, my duty according to the Bible", than I tell them about my three-step plan.  One woman said "Oh, that's why you always seem so at peace, you never got hyper over either candidate".  I do tell them that my greatest sorrow is that so many billions of dollars are used in the campaigning process... and I regret the many, many little tummies could be filled ... etc. etc.   But, I also add "Man cannot fix man, on any level, whether it be government, the justice system, the medical industry, and especially not the religious system.  Only God can fix man.  Sometimes, this leads into a discussion of the really good news... which I carefully word...  Yes, God has a glorious plan whereby He will bring ALL men to be with Him for all eternity.  ....  well this could get long... just wanted to share my three-step Scriptural plan.

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Re: Prophecy
« Reply #1055 on: November 14, 2012, 01:38:50 AM »
Well done Goodreport.
You seem to be well reposed in the Spirit.  :2thumbs:

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Re: Prophecy
« Reply #1056 on: November 14, 2012, 04:07:58 AM »
Everything is right, HE has full knowledge of our NOW. Nothing is out of place. I have voted as an American citizen and a veteran, but I find that the more I walk in Christ that it is an error on my part, I find in my reasoning that obeying what is presented to me in this world is but my task and duty, part of my race for the prize of the high calling. To add my say, by vote is me acknowledging that I do not receive this word...Rom 13:1  Let every soul to the higher authorities be subject, for there is no authority except from God, and the authorities existing are appointed by God,
Rom 13:2  so that he who is setting himself against the authority, against God's ordinance hath resisted; and those resisting, to themselves shall receive judgment.
I do not believe I will vote again, I have said this for several years, but did not follow through, but in my heart, now, today as I saw a victory that I found to be very surprising, I must know that my Lord has His complete purpose and plan unfolding as He Will. I trust in Him, now absolutely.
Mic 7:8  Thou dost not rejoice over me, O mine enemy, When I have fallen, I have risen, When I sit in darkness Jehovah is a light to me.

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Re: Prophecy
« Reply #1057 on: November 14, 2012, 04:17:24 AM »
as I saw a victory that I found to be very surprising, I must know that my Lord has His complete purpose and plan unfolding as He Will.

My likely GUESS is, it's to bring our country to our knees.   :2c:
Neither should there be vulgar speech, foolish talk, or coarse jesting--all of which are out of character--but rather thanksgiving.  Eph. 5:4  **  Saved 1John 3.2, Eph. 2:8, John 1:12 - Being saved 2Cor. 4:16 2Peter 3:18 - Will be saved 1Peter 1:5 Romans 8:23

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« Reply #1058 on: November 14, 2012, 05:56:05 AM »
as I saw a victory that I found to be very surprising, I must know that my Lord has His complete purpose and plan unfolding as He Will.

My likely GUESS is, it's to bring our country to our knees.   :2c:

No longer bothers me "to bring our country to our knees. " My knees have been on the ground for some time, being made known, that "this country" has nothing to do with His order. The "ekklēsia" or those called out, those with an ear to hear, are the of great importance. That which is done in our country, has little to do with our walk. To be concerned about "our country" for me has become to show our double minded or as some may point out [double souled as per translation]
Joh 15:19  If you belonged to the world, the world would love its own property. But because you do not belong to the world, and I have chosen you out of the world--for that reason the world hates you.
Joh 17:16  They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

I believe we need to truly understand our conversation(citizenship) and stand. Phi. 3:20
Mic 7:8  Thou dost not rejoice over me, O mine enemy, When I have fallen, I have risen, When I sit in darkness Jehovah is a light to me.

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Re: Prophecy
« Reply #1059 on: November 14, 2012, 06:05:12 AM »
Quote from: Micah
the authorities existing are appointed by God,
Rom 13:2  so that he who is setting himself against the authority, against God's ordinance hath resisted;

For the 95th time....drumroll....we the people are the authority appointed by God in this country.  We are the ones who appoint any other authorities.

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« Reply #1060 on: November 14, 2012, 07:15:43 AM »
as I saw a victory that I found to be very surprising, I must know that my Lord has His complete purpose and plan unfolding as He Will.

My likely GUESS is, it's to bring our country to our knees.   :2c:

No longer bothers me "to bring our country to our knees. " My knees have been on the ground for some time, being made known, that "this country" has nothing to do with His order. The "ekklēsia" or those called out, those with an ear to hear, are the of great importance. That which is done in our country, has little to do with our walk. To be concerned about "our country" for me has become to show our double minded or as some may point out [double souled as per translation]
Joh 15:19  If you belonged to the world, the world would love its own property. But because you do not belong to the world, and I have chosen you out of the world--for that reason the world hates you.
Joh 17:16  They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

I believe we need to truly understand our conversation(citizenship) and stand. Phi. 3:20

I'm talking about bringing people in our country to repentance, waking up, turning to God.
Neither should there be vulgar speech, foolish talk, or coarse jesting--all of which are out of character--but rather thanksgiving.  Eph. 5:4  **  Saved 1John 3.2, Eph. 2:8, John 1:12 - Being saved 2Cor. 4:16 2Peter 3:18 - Will be saved 1Peter 1:5 Romans 8:23

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« Reply #1061 on: November 14, 2012, 04:15:20 PM »
as I saw a victory that I found to be very surprising, I must know that my Lord has His complete purpose and plan unfolding as He Will.

My likely GUESS is, it's to bring our country to our knees.   :2c:

No longer bothers me "to bring our country to our knees. " My knees have been on the ground for some time, being made known, that "this country" has nothing to do with His order. The "ekklēsia" or those called out, those with an ear to hear, are the of great importance. That which is done in our country, has little to do with our walk. To be concerned about "our country" for me has become to show our double minded or as some may point out [double souled as per translation]
Joh 15:19  If you belonged to the world, the world would love its own property. But because you do not belong to the world, and I have chosen you out of the world--for that reason the world hates you.
Joh 17:16  They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

I believe we need to truly understand our conversation(citizenship) and stand. Phi. 3:20

I'm talking about bringing people in our country to repentance, waking up, turning to God.

Just because you don't hear and see the Holy Spirit in your "current event offering," does not mean He is not working His plan and purpose. His, those chosen are hearing. The war is in heaven, it is a spiritual warfare, it is being fought.  Rom 12:12  Rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing instant in prayer;
The "called out" do not just abide in America, the American Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, just because the words in God we trust are used does not make America the bosom of true worshipers. Should America fall to socialism, communism would that mean that The Father turned His face from those who walk in the Way? Take away the straw AND MAKE MORE BRICK! Did God fail His people? I think not. :HeartThrob:


"For the 95th time....drumroll....we the people are the authority appointed by God in this country.  We are the ones who appoint any other authorities." Molly someone must have a thumb on the roll.

Mic 7:8  Thou dost not rejoice over me, O mine enemy, When I have fallen, I have risen, When I sit in darkness Jehovah is a light to me.

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Re: Prophecy
« Reply #1062 on: November 14, 2012, 05:09:49 PM »
Quote from: Micah
Molly someone must have a thumb on the roll.

Yeah.  The smooth criminals.



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Re: Prophecy
« Reply #1063 on: November 14, 2012, 07:50:16 PM »
Well said Micah7:9

The instruction of the Lord is perfect,
renewing one's life;
the testimony of the Lord is trustworthy,
making the inexperienced wise.
The precepts of the Lord are right,
making the heart glad;
the command of the Lord is radiant,
making the eyes light up.
 The fear of the Lord is pure,
enduring forever;
the ordinances of the Lord are reliable
and altogether righteous.
 They are more desirable than goldó
than an abundance of pure gold;
and sweeter than honey,
which comes from the honeycomb.
 In addition, Your servant is warned by them;
there is great reward in keeping them.

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Re: Prophecy
« Reply #1064 on: November 14, 2012, 08:17:25 PM »
No one said or indicated they weren't hearing or seeing wider spread issues.  I live in America, we just had an election, so that's what I was referring to.  I think that's pretty self-evident.  I made a simple statement that I believe is true.   Blessings, peace, contentment in the Lord.
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Neither should there be vulgar speech, foolish talk, or coarse jesting--all of which are out of character--but rather thanksgiving.  Eph. 5:4  **  Saved 1John 3.2, Eph. 2:8, John 1:12 - Being saved 2Cor. 4:16 2Peter 3:18 - Will be saved 1Peter 1:5 Romans 8:23

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« Reply #1065 on: November 14, 2012, 08:22:00 PM »
Daj - you made me look it up (what you wrote)

Psalm 19:7-11
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« Reply #1066 on: November 14, 2012, 09:02:04 PM »
Daj - you made me look it up (what you wrote)

Psalm 19:7-11

Is that a good thing or a bad thing  :Peace2:

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« Reply #1067 on: November 14, 2012, 09:33:09 PM »
It's all good. Whenever I "search the scriptures" looking for one thing, I always find treasure in something else that is there. :gimmefive:
"Why do so many people think that the Bible is only inspired at certain points -  and that  THEY are inspired to pick out which points?"

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« Reply #1068 on: November 14, 2012, 09:38:36 PM »
It's all good. Whenever I "search the scriptures" looking for one thing, I always find treasure in something else that is there. :gimmefive:

Oh yes,,,  always such lovely treasures.
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« Reply #1069 on: November 14, 2012, 11:23:09 PM »
No one said or indicated they weren't hearing or seeing wider spread issues.  I live in America, we just had an election, so that's what I was referring to.  I think that's pretty self-evident.  I made a simple statement that I believe is true.   Blessings, peace, contentment in the Lord.

Do you believe or think that the election was in order? Do you think or believe that the election is a reflection of godlessness in America? Do think or believe that the believers stand has been altered because of the election? Do believe that there needs to be a law put in place that allows a believe or his or her children to show their union with God? Are christians losing something because of this election? How important was the election for our walk in The Way? Peace with contentment in the Lord :HeartThrob: Love you my friend.
Mic 7:8  Thou dost not rejoice over me, O mine enemy, When I have fallen, I have risen, When I sit in darkness Jehovah is a light to me.

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« Reply #1070 on: November 15, 2012, 12:05:23 AM »
Do you believe or think that the election was in order?

--God's will.  He works in our own stupidity and blindness.



Do you think or believe that the election is a reflection of godlessness in America?

--There are many indications, decisions made every day - individually and nationally - (sheep/goat judgment)  that indicate a great falling away, IMO.



Do think or believe that the believers stand has been altered because of the election?

--I don't know how much it applies today, God was talking to the nation of Israel.  But He did say if my people, will humble themselves and pray...our legal standing in Him is not affected, but our everyday lives may be.  Thankfully His kingdom is not of this world, and the closer we draw to Him/trust in Him, the better.  We are not of the world, but we are still in it..give unto Caesar.  I think the Christians' lives were definitely affected when they were being fed to the lions by Nero.  Families were separated, literally torn apart.  Some tried to commit suicide to escape more quickly.  Still, they just passed on from this temporariness to be forever with God - which is the believer's goal.  I still doubt many of them enjoyed the process of getting there, but perhaps some of them were able to enter into a state of full trust in Him to where they were "removed" s/w from the event.  I don't know..  Stephen seemed to be in another "state" of existence, but on the other hand, Jesus was in great pain and sorrow.  Maybe He chose and the Father acted in such a way as for Him to feel and experience it all, as He bore our sins and transgressions.  I believe there's a shield and shelter God takes us into, the cleft of the Rock, where we have peace, comfort, and protection in the storm.  A very present help in time of trouble.  Should we be aware, or ignore?  I guess that's one of the pertinent questions.  Maybe the answer is, getting more "taken away" into Him, no matter what happens.  Seems to me being aware, "seeing the writing on the wall" can be a motivator to bring us closer to Him - and some to Him in the first place.   :2c:



Do believe that there needs to be a law put in place that allows a believe or his or her children to show their union with God?

--I believe you already know that one, but it's a good reminder.


Are christians losing something because of this election?

--There's a point where many will lose their heads - not just from this election, from the continued direction and as things play out.  I don't know if this is in our lifetime or not.  I'm not that smart.


How important was the election for our walk in The Way?

--Well, I believe that was my initial, simple statement.  Future results will likely bring us to our knees, turning peoples' hearts more to God.  Sometimes we get what we ask for, and there are consequences.  If you're personally exactly where you need to be with God, praying enough, humbled enough before Him, turned enough from your wicked ways, then it likely won't affect you personally.  I (and probably some others) still have room to grow.  Regardless, God's still in control.   :thumbsup:

These things are only my opinion and current view. 

Blessings and grace.
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Neither should there be vulgar speech, foolish talk, or coarse jesting--all of which are out of character--but rather thanksgiving.  Eph. 5:4  **  Saved 1John 3.2, Eph. 2:8, John 1:12 - Being saved 2Cor. 4:16 2Peter 3:18 - Will be saved 1Peter 1:5 Romans 8:23

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« Reply #1071 on: November 15, 2012, 04:58:51 AM »
Oh, well, back to work.


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Israel poised for ground assault as it calls up 6,500 troops
Israel called up 6,500 reservists today amid signs of an imminent ground assault on Gaza.




http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/3999857/Israel-poised-for-ground-assault-as-it-calls-up-6500-troops.html


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« Reply #1072 on: November 15, 2012, 05:03:53 AM »
There was one point where I considered that the invading army called, the abomination which causes desolation, might be a UN army.    But, at the time, I couldn't see how we could double cross Israel to allow that to happen.  Needless to say,  I've since changed my mind and see this as a possibiiity.

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« Reply #1073 on: November 15, 2012, 05:05:48 AM »
the article you posted says the UN, the EU, and the Pope(!) are calling on Israel to stop, all the while rockets are being fired into Israel.  Yeah, I could see us definitely turning a blind eye now.
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« Reply #1074 on: November 15, 2012, 05:07:44 AM »
Definitely a possibility about the UN army... and I wouldn't be surprised at an Israeli double cross as this president has made it clear where he stands. "The sweetest sounds I've ever heard is the muslim call to prayer."
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