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Offline Lazarus Short

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Re: The Kingdom of God
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2013, 09:18:08 PM »
Quote from: ded2daworld on March 19, 2013, 04:30:16 PM
This may be an unconventional point of veiw. IMO, the "kingdom of heaven" is... God. Just like now He can be in you and outside of you simultaneously. Just as he is inside of time and his creation yet, at the same time outside of both. There, now it's all cleared up> :laughing7:

God is not contained in time, the universe, or His kingdom.  Remember that a kingdom consists of four things:

a King
a piece of real estate
a body of Law
subjects

Take any of the four away, and you arguably do not have a Kingdom.
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Socrates taught Plato.  Plato taught Aristotle.  Aristotle tutored the son of Philip of Macedon.  This boy grew up to become Alexander the Great, largely by slaughtering a lot of people.  That's philosophy.

Jesus spoke the Truth.  He blessed the poor.  He healed the sick.  He even raised the dead.  He died on a cross for us, lived again, and came back long enough to tell us to love one another.  That's religion.

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Re: The Kingdom of God
« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2013, 09:25:32 PM »
That's what I thought I said Laz - God is inside and outside his creation and time and us.
To me a kingdom is a King and subjects and that's all.
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Re: The Kingdom of God
« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2013, 09:30:42 PM »
I thought you were saying that God is the Kingdom, period.  You at least forgot the real estate (the universe).
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Socrates taught Plato.  Plato taught Aristotle.  Aristotle tutored the son of Philip of Macedon.  This boy grew up to become Alexander the Great, largely by slaughtering a lot of people.  That's philosophy.

Jesus spoke the Truth.  He blessed the poor.  He healed the sick.  He even raised the dead.  He died on a cross for us, lived again, and came back long enough to tell us to love one another.  That's religion.

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Re: The Kingdom of God
« Reply #28 on: June 08, 2013, 08:22:08 AM »
Hello Marie Glen,

This popular and misunderstood scripture does not negate the other 68 scriptures that say the exact opposite. Check out this article for a good explanation of the word "within":

http://www.ucg.org/bible-faq/kingdom-god-within-you

This article will give you a complete understanding of the Kingdom of God - and who will be selected:

http://ernestlmartin.com/kingdomofgod-firstresurrection.htm

I hope this helps.

Ken



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The Kingdom of God, is it only within? Will we be body-less?
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Re: The Kingdom of God
« Reply #29 on: June 09, 2013, 08:06:26 AM »
Flesh and blood will not inherit the kingdom of God. We will have spiritual bodies.
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Re: The Kingdom of God
« Reply #30 on: June 09, 2013, 12:50:20 PM »
As a soul learns more about Divine sacrificial Love, then that soul learns more about the Kingdom of God which is: "...far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and above every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come..."

It is not a "place" as such.

Let people joust with their words and manmade theories - if that's what they need to do. Follow Christ instead, it's generally too simple for the mind of man.
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Re: The Kingdom of God
« Reply #31 on: June 09, 2013, 04:04:10 PM »
15Why I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus, and love to all the saints, 16Cease not to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers; 17That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him: 18The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that you may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints, 19And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, 20Which he worked in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, 21Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: 22And has put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, 23Which is his body, the fullness of him that fills all in all.   Eph 1



For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking but of righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit.  Rom 14




17And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject to us through your name. 18And he said to them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. 19Behold, I give to you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. … Luke 10



And he said to them, "Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see that the kingdom of God has come with power."

--Mark 9:1


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Re: The Kingdom of God
« Reply #32 on: June 09, 2013, 11:24:12 PM »
"simplicity" - I think simplicity is where it's at.. a spiritual body.. and also literal fulfillment.. I can't think of this beautiful creation as some sort of mistake.. God is creating paradise and is simply building the foundation, which is full understanding in every heart and mind of what is life from death, i.e. good from evil.. and true from untrue..

The paradise He is building will be un-breakable after this all important and crucial lesson has been fully learned by all..

I believe in yield, yield, yielding unto God.. once we get to the floor of our being in yielding, we can then begin to tear up the floorboards.. It's all grace; and law mixed with grace robs the whole process (grace) of it POWER.. If we are written in God's book of predestination, it's just that too.. all God.. All His Grace and choice.. lest any could ever boast... His will is impossible to limit. "In that day He alone will be exalted" Isaiah 2:

Jes thinkin' 'out loud' :girlheart: praising God for His great wonderfulness, perfection and the utter perfection to come which is His blueprint.. what He is building and will have :smile:

"the lion will eat straw like the ox the bear will graze with the cow" Is 11:7
"His Kingdom will never end" Luke 1:33
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Re: The Kingdom of God
« Reply #33 on: June 09, 2013, 11:31:39 PM »
Quote from: marie glen on June 09, 2013, 11:24:12 PM


Jes thinkin' 'out loud' :girlheart: praising God for His great wonderfulness, perfection and the utter perfection to come which is His blueprint.. what He is building and will have :smile:

"the lion will eat straw like the ox the bear will graze with the cow" Is 11:7
"His Kingdom will never end" Luke 1:33

There's gonna come a day when the bear won't roar
and the lion won't scare the little lambs
All the little sheep will be sound asleep
with the lion there as their pillow on the ground
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