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Stephen

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Re: MBG's Structure
« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2009, 02:18:53 PM »
WH,

It is evident that the Lord has not returned as promised

Many unfulfilled projections written in His Word have just not come to pass

They will

He has not changed His scheduled involvement .... He tarrys

He even tells of this truth directly in His Word many times 

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Re: MBG's Structure
« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2009, 05:45:13 PM »
The so called second coming is the traditional churches rendition of Scripture . . .but Jesus came in the upper room . . .he came to Paul, he came to Peter even . . .(showed him the transition of the gospel from Jew to Gentile) He came in A.D. 70 . . .he's come innumerable times, just not in the form men's minds are expecting . . .same as before . . .Jesus came, but not in the form people were expecting.  Jews rejected him as the Messiah as they were expecting something else.

Disciples didn't recognize him after his resurrection becasue they were looking for him in another form . . . so who are we to think that he's not come just because according to "our" interpretations of what "we think" the word is saying?  He comes as a thief in the night . . .to those who are living IN THE NIGHT of truth.  We are no longer in the night . . .we choose Light! 

He comes in the form of blessing to those who are in him, to those who only know an image of him they live in the night, always worried about theives coming to steal their belongings . . .how many times have we had people come to the forum with their critical words of warning about being false teachers, prophets, the list goes on . . . it is simply the evidence of one who lives in the night is all it is.

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Re: MBG's Structure
« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2009, 06:29:59 PM »
 :cloud9: AMEN Nathan, He appears to those who are LOOKING for HIM, not looking for events in the natural Kingdom. All they are is a WITNESS (of things unfolding within the temple), to He who IS the Truth, even the SPIRIT OF TRUTH, who has come, who is coming and who shall come. That word used is an active verb denoting action and "movement", not a passive inactive noun.

There is no "final" second coming, anymore than the church is going to "fly away". Both are false doctrines built upon the carnal mind's of men trying to understand spiritual principles of the Kingdom, apart from the mind of Christ, and it does not work. Blessings....
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Re: MBG's Structure
« Reply #28 on: May 28, 2009, 11:54:40 PM »
WH,

It is evident that the Lord has not returned as promised

Many unfulfilled projections written in His Word have just not come to pass

They will

He has not changed His scheduled involvement .... He tarrys

He even tells of this truth directly in His Word many times 


The word "tarries" implies that He has/ is delayed (representing change) with respect to His "scheduled" involvement, which means you've just contradicted yourself with that statement.
God does not instruct us to pray to change His mind. He wants us to pray so that we'll know His mind.
 
"Prayer doesn't change God, it changes me." --C.S. Lewis

God never had or needed a Plan B. He's still on Plan A.

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Re: MBG's Structure
« Reply #29 on: May 29, 2009, 12:07:59 AM »
Revelation
19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;

19:18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

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Re: MBG's Structure
« Reply #30 on: May 29, 2009, 03:46:16 AM »
willieH: Hi phen...  :happygrin:

WH,

It is evident that the Lord has not returned as promised

Many unfulfilled projections written in His Word have just not come to pass

They will

Because it is your observation that "projections" are unfulfilled, does not mean they have not been fulfilled, it just means that your observation, seen with the eyes of the Spiritually blind, ...misses that fulfillment

He has not changed His scheduled involvement .... He tarrys

TWO more SCRIPTURELESS LIES which are written in YOUR OWN WORDS, and which are contrary to Scripture...

(1)  As was previously pointed out to you... a DELAY is a change in SCHEDULE... there have been NO DELAYS (which are changes in SCHEDULE)...and

James 1:17 -- Every good gift and every perfect gift if from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, which whom there IS NO VARIABLENESS, neither shadow OF TURNING

(2)  CHRIST does NOT "TARRY" concerning His coming:

Heb 10:37 -- For yet a little while, and He that shall come will come, ...and WILL NOT TARRY...

I told you that your FALLACIES would be EXPOSED... yet you persist in your folly... too stiff necked and prideful to learn...  :sigh:

There will be more to come, the more you post your lies and fallacies...  :teaching:

He even tells of this truth directly in His Word many times 

Oh really?  Why did you not name even ONE of the "many times"?  :dontknow:

...willieH  :icon_king:

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Re: MBG's Structure
« Reply #31 on: May 29, 2009, 05:25:58 AM »
Really

Acts
1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?

1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

Romans
11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob

2Peter
3:1 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:

3:2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:

3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

3:11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

3:14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

3:17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.

3:18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen
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Re: MBG's Structure
« Reply #32 on: May 29, 2009, 05:33:23 AM »
Jesus came, but not in the form people were expecting. 

Simplicity!  :mshock:

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