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Bring Various Good Stuff Here :)
« on: January 28, 2011, 08:49:47 AM »
Besides the specific verses listed in this section, Gary would like ANY REALLY SOLID UR "GEMS",  to be brought here.  This new request would especially include any awesome QUOTES OR PASSAGES you may come across when reading on the web or a book, etc - COPY AND PASTED HERE WITH PROPER (COPYRIGHT) CREDITS (due to legal requirements).

Whether it's something from another site, some of Mr. Eby's writings, "Hope Beyond Hell", etc., as long as it's powerful and proper credits given, Gary will be watching for them here so he can use them over at www.lovewins.us.

Thanks, God bless, James.

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Re: Bring Various Good Stuff Here :)
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2011, 07:22:32 AM »
[This is a favorite of mine, 2 Kings 6:15-23]

DO WE KILL PRISONERS OF WAR?

This is part of the story of Elisha, when the servant said "what shall we do the city is surrounded by an army and horses and chariots!" And Elisha prayed that his eyes would be open and the servant would see that those with them were more than those against them, and the servant saw the mountains were full of horses and chariots of fire.. In the next verse Elisha prays for the enemy army to be struck with blindness. They are. And Elisha leads them into the midst of the city where they become at the mercy of Israel's army. The king of Israel yelled out to Elisha "shall I kill them?" And Elisha answered "do not kill them, would you kill those you had taken captive in battle? Set bread and water before them and send them on their way.."

Surely those of the Second Resurrection could be said in that day to be a type of 'prisoners of war'. Does anyone honorable destroy prisoners of war? Neither does God..
- Is it written? no repentance after death? if resurrected still in ones sins (2nd Resurrection) will be weeping and wailing? Holy Days - Trumpets, Atonement, Tabernacles prophecy the three peaks of His long 2nd advent? Is weeping & wailing the beginning of the redemptive process?
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- "...aLL things new" Rev21:5 "A new heavens and a new earth" Rev 21:1 - Is 11:7 Micah 4:4 Is 30:25
http://www.bubblews.com/news/9080033 -revelation told in rhyme - 45 days

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Re: Bring Various Good Stuff Here :)
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2011, 11:53:57 AM »
From Concordant Publishing Concern;

THE OLD ENGLISH "hell," denoted that which is covered (hidden or unseen). Consequently, it once served as a suitable translation of the Greek hades, which means "imperceptible" or "unseen." In modern English, however, due to the corrupting influence of human tradition, "hell" has come to mean "the abode of the dead; the place of punishment after death [in which the dead are alive]." Consequently, since in modern English the notion represented by the term "hell" constitutes, to say the least, interpretation, not translation, it is unconscionable for modern translators to render either the Hebrew sheol or the Greek hades by this expression.

Yet it is worse still, whether in old English or modern English, to render the Greek tartarosas and especially the Greek geenna, also as "hell." Such "translations" are not translations at all; they are but the product of circular reasoning and hoary tradition. Whatever one's understanding may be concerning the matters to which these words make reference, as a translation of the Original, the rendering "hell," in all cases, is wholly unjustifiable. Yet it is this very rendering, the single term, "hell," for all these distinct words in the Original, which has spawned all the familiar talk concerning "hell" which prevails among "Bible-believing Christians" today. (James Coram, "The Gehenna of Fire," Concordant Publishing Concern, 2006)

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Re: Bring Various Good Stuff Here :)
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2011, 01:18:31 AM »
Taken from "A Seed In Every Man". Written by J Preston Eby


Ray Prinzing once said it so aptly, "Strange indeed the past theology of man. The corpse is floating upon the water and we throw it a life-rope and tell the corpse that if it will grab hold we'll help to pull it in. What nonsense! He is dead, he can't grab hold of anything. The man is DEAD IN TRESPASSES AND SINS, his back is toward the light, he is all enwrapped with self-rebellion against the Lord, there is no light in him at all. Then we are supposed to call out to this one totally dead in trespasses and sins, 'Come to Jesus!' How can he come? He's dead to all spiritual life, he has no power to turn around and walk towards God. Then we blame him for not coming to Christ for salvation! How foolish! But now, if a mighty one overtakes him, and light is brought to this one in darkness, and life is given to them, then shall they respond and serve Him.

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Re: Bring Various Good Stuff Here :)
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2011, 05:52:55 AM »
One of my favorite set of verses....


1 Timothy 2:1-6(KJV)
1 - I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
2 - For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
3 - For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
4 - Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
5 - For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
6 - Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.


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"Pretty soon, everybody will get what they deserve, which is ..."Salvation"..."Reconciliation"..."Restitution"..."Restoration"..."Immortality"... and "Incorruption" --- now ain't that the coolest thing?

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Re: Bring Various Good Stuff Here :)
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2011, 06:22:36 AM »
from gregoryfl;

I was studying the Moabite stone just now, and on line seven I noticed this interesting statement, "and Israel perished with "olam" destruction." I have bolded and underlined that statement.

1. אנכ. משע. בנ. כמש.. . מלכ. מאב. הד
2. יבני | אבי. מלכ. על. מאב. שלשנ. שת. ואנכ. מלכ
3. תי. אחר. אבי | ואעש. הבמת. זאת. לכמש. בקרחה | ב[נס. י]
4. שע. כי. השעני. מכל. המלכנ. וכי. הראני. בכל. שנאי | עמר
5. י. מלכ. ישראל. ויענו. את. מאב. ימנ. רבן. כי. יאנפ. כמש. באר
6. צה | ויחלפה. בנה. ויאמר. גמ. הא. אענו. את. מאב | בימי. אמר. כ[...]
7. וארא. בה. ובבתה | וישראל. אבד. אבד. עלמ. וירש. עמרי. את א[ר]
8. צ. מהדבא | וישב. בה. ימה. וחצי. ימי. בנה. ארבענ. שת. ויש
9. בה. כמש. בימי | ואבנ. את. בעלמענ. ואעש. בה. האשוח. ואבנ
10. את. קריתנ | ואש. גד. ישב. בארצ. עטרת. מעלמ. ויבנ. לה. מלכ. י
11. שראל. את. עטרת | ואלתחמ. בקר. ואחזה | ואהרג. את. כל. העמ. [מ]
12. הקר. רית. לכמש. ולמאב | ואשב. משמ. את. אראל. דודה. ואס
13. חבה. לפני. כמש. בקרית | ואשב. בה. את. אש. שרנ. ואת. אש
14. מחרת | ויאמר. לי. כמש. לכ. אחז. את. נבה. על. ישראל | וא
15. הלכ. הללה. ואלתחמ. בה. מבקע. השחרת. עד. הצהרמ | ואח
16. זה. ואהרג. כלה. שבעת. אלפנ. גברנ. ו[גר]נ | וגברת. וגר
17. ת. ורחמת | כי. לעשתר. כמש. החרמתה | ואקח. משמ. א[ת. כ]
18. לי. יהוה. ואסחב. המ. לפני. כמש | ומלכ. ישראל. בנה. את
19. יהצ. וישב. בה. בהלתחמה. בי | ויגרשה. כמש. מפני | ו
20. אקח. ממאב. מאתנ. אש. כל. רשה | ואשאה. ביהצ. ואחזה.
21. לספת. על. דיבנ | אנכ. בנתי. קרחה. חמת. היערנ. וחמת
22. העפל | ואנכ. בנתי. שעריה. ואנכ. בנתי. מגדלתה | וא
23. נכ. בנתי. בת. מלכ. ואנכ. עשתי. כלאי. האש[וח למי]נ. בקרב
24. הקר | ובר. אנ. בקרב. הקר. בקרחה. ואמר. לכל. העמ. עשו. ל
25. כמ. אש. בר. בביתה | ואנכ. כרתי. המכרתת. לקרחה. באסר
26. [י]. ישראל | אנכ. בנתי. ערער. ואנכ. עשתי. המסלת. בארננ.
27. אנכ. בנתי. בת. במת. כי. הרס. הא | אנכ. בנתי. בצר. כי. עינ
28. ----- ש. דיבנ. חמשנ. כי. כל. דיבנ. משמעת | ואנכ. מלכ
29. ת[י] ----- מאת. בקרנ. אשר. יספתי. על. הארצ | ואנכ. בנת
30. [י. את. מה]דבא. ובת. דבלתנ | ובת. בעלמענ. ואשא. שמ. את. [...]
31. --------- צאנ. הארצ | וחורננ. ישב. בה. ב
32. --------- אמר. לי. כמש. רד. הלתחמ. בחורננ | וארד
33. ---------[ויש]בה. כמש. בימי. ועל[...]. משמ. עש
34. -------------- שת. שדק | וא

We know that Israel still existed after this time. This is just more proof to me that the word usually rendered as "everlasting" or "eternal," here taken from the Hebrew "olam," when rendered as an adjective, is not speaking about length of time, but about that which is from God. Quality, not quantity. In this case, Mesha was saying that divine punishment, punishment from his god Chemosh, came upon Israel, not that they were destroyed forever.

Olam life, olam punishment, the olam God, olam covenant, etc, in my findings, all have to do with that which issues from God, not how long they would last. Remembering that the word itself speaks of that which is hidden and hazy, what is on the horizon and beyond, that describes these things perfectly to me.

Ron

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Re: Bring Various Good Stuff Here :)
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2011, 06:55:05 AM »
Taken from "A Seed In Every Man". Written by J Preston Eby


Ray Prinzing once said it so aptly, "Strange indeed the past theology of man. The corpse is floating upon the water and we throw it a life-rope and tell the corpse that if it will grab hold we'll help to pull it in. What nonsense! He is dead, he can't grab hold of anything. The man is DEAD IN TRESPASSES AND SINS, his back is toward the light, he is all enwrapped with self-rebellion against the Lord, there is no light in him at all. Then we are supposed to call out to this one totally dead in trespasses and sins, 'Come to Jesus!' How can he come? He's dead to all spiritual life, he has no power to turn around and walk towards God. Then we blame him for not coming to Christ for salvation! How foolish! But now, if a mighty one overtakes him, and light is brought to this one in darkness, and life is given to them, then shall they respond and serve Him.

WELL GLORY!

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Mic 7:8  Thou dost not rejoice over me, O mine enemy, When I have fallen, I have risen, When I sit in darkness Jehovah is a light to me.