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Hebrews 6:4-6

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Nil Recurring:
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6:4 For it is impossible in the case of those who have once been enlightened, tasted the heavenly gift, become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 6:5 tasted the good word of God and the miracles of the coming age, 6:6 and then have committed apostasy, to renew them again to repentance, since they are crucifying the Son of God for themselves all over again and holding him up to contempt.


This seems to speak specifically to those who are Christians and who have fallen away. Could this be taken to mean that those who become Apostate will not rule with Christ in His kingdom?

Aleax:

--- Quote from: Nil Recurring on July 15, 2011, 12:08:31 AM ---Could this be taken to mean that those who become Apostate will not rule with Christ in His kingdom?

--- End quote ---

Yepp, for humans it's impossible to renew them because they don't want to be renewed. However, with God, all things are possible.

Beloved Servant:


The Lord said it is impossible; so they never had it in the first place.

Nathan:
How about this . . . what if it's saying . . .once God's dna is in you, there IS NO FALLING AWAY . . .it's IMPOSSIBLE not only to renew them, but for them to fall away in the first place.  That's what being born again does, it allows you to "see" the principles of how the kingdom works and one of the greatest things isn't that the person was never saved, it's that regardless of what the person's mind does, it will never change the irreversable experience that God's DNA spiritually is now living and moving "in" us.  Only the carnal mind would project an image to try to reverse the irreversable.  The person doesn't fall away from God.  No matter where we are, he is there.  Wasn't it David that even said "When I'm in hell, you are there."  When we grow into an ascended place with him, it's imipossible for us to separate him from us, just as it's impossible for him to renew us back to him . . . . it's an irrevokable bond.

Beloved Servant:


If God is in Hell with David and God is in Heaven then Hell is in Heaven!

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