willieH: Hi PT...
Still no responses from you to my posts...
Just more babble of your own...
I am really sorry that you don't realize that Jesus died for the sins of the world meaning every sinner in this present age. Those who are saved in this present age have no threat from the second death, meaning death in the millineum. The point of the millineum is the seperation of the wheat and the tares, the light from the darkness. The saints are the holy angels.(1)
There is no "millenium" except in THEOLOGIAN theories... it is UNBIBLICAL and NOT of the Word of God dusty...(2)
This present age? What is this present age dusty? When did it commence? And when shall it end?(3)
Saints ARE the Holy Angels? book, chapter, verse... The saints ARE messengers
(aggelos /#32 strongs)... but if you mean them to be ANGELS, this is quite off base.(4)
The Second Death
is for ALL who have participated in THIS LIST (which is ALL): (Rev 21:8)
But the FEARFUL
[all who have "feared"] and UNBELIEVING
[all have been CONCLUDED to this state by GOD - Rom 11:32] and the ABOMINABLE
[ALL who have done ANYTHING
UNHOLY] and MURDERERS
[which includes anyone who has been angry with his brother for no good reason
] and SORCERERS
[which is actually DRUG users or peddlers] and IDOLATORS
[anyone who has held ANYTHING above GOD within their days of life] and ALL LIARS
[anyone who has born OTHER than truth at any given time - which is ALL] ...SHALL have their part in the LAKE of FIRE
And what pray tell is the "LAKE of FIRE"?(Rev 20:14)
The LAKE of FIRE, is where DEATH and HELL were cast into = the SECOND DEATH (Rev 20:15)
ANYONE not found in the book of life was cast into this LAKE of FIRE...
THIS lifetime, dusty... is the LAKE of FIRE... it is where ALL SINNERS - which DIE that "2nd death" have been cast... and certainly DEATH and HELL (the GRAVE) are present in this TIME scenario as well...CHRIST
tasted DEATH (to redeem us from it) for EVERY MAN... (Heb 2:9)
The death He died to REDEEM us from, is the FIRST DEATH... (spirit)... He did NOT die FLESHLY death for us... nor to redeem us from it...
The SECOND DEATH is the DEATH of the flesh... which RIGHTLY returns to the DUST in DEATH... but our SPIRIT
, which CHRIST
"tasted death" FOR... returns to GOD...
ALL are blotted out... by their SIN in the FLESH... And that BLOTTING results in DEATH of the FLESH...
ALL are written in the BOOK of the LAMB's LIFE... in the SPIRIT for which He DIED to write each of us INTO it!
The millineum is the seperation of the wheat and the tares.
There is no "MILLENIUM" dusty... just as there is no "TRINITY", ...just as there is no "RAPTURE"... just as no one is "GOING to HEAVEN", and no one is "GOING to HELL", ...just as there is no "ETERNAL SEPARATION"... just as there is no "FREE WILL"... just as there is no "DECISION for CHRIST"... just as there is no "SPIRITUAL ISRAEL"... just as there is no "SECOND COMING of CHRIST"... just as there is no "SINNERS PRAYER"... and on, and on, and blah,
... go the false doctrines of Christianity.
Try to FIND any of these in the Bible dusty... you WON'T
But you WILL
find most ALL
these in the various varieties of Christian churches! :omg:
Revelation 20:7And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
You have GOD going back & forth
, and REDEEMING then postponing
(for 1000yrs)... all misconceptions of SYMBOLIC writing...
You can be ignorant of scripture if you want and think the tare is your flesh if you will but you have been told the truth of these things. God is not mocked and the scriptures can not be broken. The report is hard to be understood, and is a vexation to the whole world. No surprise, for we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but spiritual wickedness in high places.
Methinks it is YOU which is ignorant of Scripture... NO one is mocking GOD... we are ALL trying to understand... and we are ALL WELL AWARE that the Scripture cannot be broken...
You are correct dusty... the report is HARD to be understood, which is why you are having such difficulty!
SPIRITUAL WICKEDNESS in HIGH PLACES... Those HIGH PLACES being the hearts of MEN (who are the TEMPLES of the HOLY SPIRIT) as they SINFULLY hold their will
It (SPIRITUAL WICKEDNESS) is NOT some omnipresent demon the religious call "satan", that embattles GOD... on some bloody battlefield after some symbolic amount of TIME ("millenium") and which bears NO REASON for occuring as you portray it to occur... making NO SENSE at all... please...
There is no "MILLENIUM" dusty...
Show this term to us in the Word of God...
There IS a symbolic notation of 1000yrs written in The Revelation of JESUS CHRIST
, but this symbol, is not as you suppose it to be...
You make it an island of TIME... a LITERAL period of TIME, ...as if it is literally going to occur...
PLEASE EXPLAIN what REASON there is for ...CHRIST
to "rule and reign" for 1000 "years", and then let the devil out of his prison to cause more chaos... Then, finally end all this business? That is a cockeyed, illogical, and ignorant observation to say the least...
When you clean up a baby (which is what redemption amounts to), ...do you wash his right arm, then come back later after watching the football game, and wash the other arm, ...then go and watch tv for a while, and come back later to wash his face... and after changing the sheets on the bed, ...return to wash his left leg, ...please!
When GOD delivered the JEWS from BONDAGE... there were no INCREMENTS divided by any periods of TIME! Their deliverance included ALL the JEWS, and their individual deliverances OCCURED simulataneously!
The SCRIPTURE says EVERY EYE
shall see His SALVATION! Not in broken up "increments"... (Rev 1:7) Behold He cometh with clouds and EVERY EYE shall see Him, and they also which pierced Him; and ALL KINDREDS of the earth, shall wail because of Him.ALL
shall behold His majesty SIMULTANEOUSLY
... at the conclusion of the LAST DAY:(Is 52:10) YHVH hath made bare His Holy arm in the eyes of ALL the nations; and ALL the ENDS OF THE EARTH shall see the SALVATION of OUR GOD.peACe