willieH: Hi PT...
I realize that many of you don't want to believe what is going on here, and can not accept the fact there are people in the world who originated spiritually from a different spirit than the Father in heaven. They get hungry , they bleed, they talk, and they harbor an unending emnity toward God our Father, if indeed God the Light, is your father, and toward you therefore.
I observe you to be a bit off base in this statement dusty... stating there is more than ONE CREATOR in the process... as you note SOME have a different SPIRITUAL ORIGIN, than do others...
And furthermore, ...that you have quoted the writings of PAUL, essentially means that you endorse and accept them, ...and part of those writings of PAUL, contain this verse which CONTRADICTS
what you just stated
:(Col 1:16) For BY HIM [CHRIST] were ...ALL THINGS CREATED... that ARE in HEAVEN and that ARE in EARTH, visible and invisble, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: ALL [not some] THINGS were CREATED BY HIM, and, ...FOR HIM.
This verse also CONTRADICTS your thinking above:(Heb 12:9) Furthermore, we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence, shall we not much rather be in subjection to the FATHER OF SPIRITS and live?
This verse notes GOD to be the [one] FATHER of SPIRITS... ALL
SPIRITS dusty... for EVERYTHING (as noted in Col 1:16
) has its ORIGIN or SOURCE in YHVH
... including those "spirits" which you claim find origin
in another source (satan)
Another verse CONTRADICTS your words above (and verifies what I just stated):(John 1:9) That was the TRUE LIGHT which LIGHTETH ...EVERY MAN, that cometh INTO the WORLD...
In this verse are found these words:1... LIGHTETH
- #5461 strongs - LIGHTETH=PHOTIZO
=ILLUMINATE or make to SEE
- #3956 strongs =EVERY=PAS
=ALL 3... MAN
/human beings/people - #444 strongs - MAN=ANTHROPOS
=HUMAN BEING4... WORLD
...#2889 strongs - KOSMOS
ALL are "LIT" by the same TRUE
(not false) LIGHT dusty... not by another source which you deem to have this same power - satan.
Either Jesus Christ is the LIVING WORD OF GOD, or He is a Liar.
YOU herein post YOUR OPINION/INTERPRETATION of the LIVING WORD, and then note that ANY disagreement with that OPINION, is calling CHRIST
a "LIAR"... please!
Get a clue bro!
No one here EVER calls CHRIST
a liar... only YOU have stated such words...
In effect what you have stated is that if we DO NOT OBSERVE as YOU OBSERVE, then... we call CHRIST
a LIAR... which are YOUR WORDS, ....not HIS...
Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
John 1:14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
15John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.
Listening to any other voice that opposes what He said is foolishness.
Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
I am certain that all who post here, are quite aware of these verses dusty... and are in COMPLETE AGREEMENT with that which is stated within them...
However, ...YOU determine that YOUR OBSERVATION is correct, and deduce others WRONG, by comparing their observation to YOURS, ...NOT, ...to the WORD.
For others OBSERVE the WORD as well, and find difference with YOUR OBSERVATION, ...NOT with the WORD... THEREFORE:
I have stated this before, and most likely shall have to state it MANY MORE TIMES... NO ONE is "right" and NO ONE is "wrong"... ONE is either REVEALED or VEILED in ANY given area of observance.
Believe what you will...