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Re: Rich man and Lazarus (again)
« Reply #50 on: January 19, 2013, 07:18:41 PM »

 when the spirit of Christ is in you...the Kingdom of heaven is in your midst..this I know..for tabernacling with Him

I agree. You couldn't be more right. God is Spirit, spirit lies beyond matter, beyond time, beyond space.  The spirit exists before and above and beyond time.  "HE IS before all things."  So if one lives and walks "in the spirit" he is ALSO transcending time, space, and matter. Eternity is not somewhere out in the future where time continues linearly. Eternity, rather, is where time "ends" dimensionally; where the "physical" dies and the "spirit" lives. The spirit of Christ is unchangeable, therefore eternal, before time, after time, and in time; hence, the name "I AM."  And when the spirit of I AM lives in you, and you in Him, that is what is truly meant by "LIFE eternal."

  • John 14:6 "....I AM the way, the truth, and THE LIFE...."

There is a name for this place where we in linear time can hope over into the other dimension
 
I t is marked on a map with a Cross . Wheres the map?

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Re: Rich man and Lazarus (again)
« Reply #51 on: January 19, 2013, 07:23:54 PM »
In our heart.. :Peace2:
"Why do so many people think that the Bible is only inspired at certain points -  and that  THEY are inspired to pick out which points?"
No matter what others may say or write, only the word of God is the word of God.

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Re: Rich man and Lazarus (again)
« Reply #52 on: January 19, 2013, 07:29:52 PM »
Oh good I found my map .
I was looking to see what scale was used .The value of the coordinates.
It said the value for the measurement of time, was exactly the value
of that which measures it.

The map says at the bottom
If you get lost that's perfect just stand still and say I am lost.
This is where the CROSS is.

Enter thenew dimension at your peers risk.   

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Re: Rich man and Lazarus (again)
« Reply #53 on: January 19, 2013, 10:09:38 PM »

 when the spirit of Christ is in you...the Kingdom of heaven is in your midst..this I know..for tabernacling with Him

I agree. You couldn't be more right. God is Spirit, spirit lies beyond matter, beyond time, beyond space.  The spirit exists before and above and beyond time.  "HE IS before all things."  So if one lives and walks "in the spirit" he is ALSO transcending time, space, and matter. Eternity is not somewhere out in the future where time continues linearly. Eternity, rather, is where time "ends" dimensionally; where the "physical" dies and the "spirit" lives. The spirit of Christ is unchangeable, therefore eternal, before time, after time, and in time; hence, the name "I AM."  And when the spirit of I AM lives in you, and you in Him, that is what is truly meant by "LIFE eternal."

  • John 14:6 "....I AM the way, the truth, and THE LIFE...."

There is a name for this place where we in linear time can hope over into the other dimension
 
I t is marked on a map with a Cross . Wheres the map?

It is written in between the lines of the Scriptures and illuminated by the Holy Spirit in the communion of the saints.
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Re: Rich man and Lazarus (again)
« Reply #54 on: January 19, 2013, 10:22:35 PM »
EW You (nearly) always say what I meant  - only better :Peace2:
"Why do so many people think that the Bible is only inspired at certain points -  and that  THEY are inspired to pick out which points?"
No matter what others may say or write, only the word of God is the word of God.

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Re: Rich man and Lazarus (again)
« Reply #55 on: January 19, 2013, 11:14:37 PM »
In our heart.. :Peace2:

Exactly!  :declare:

  • 1 Corinthians 3:16-17 "Do you not know that YOU ARE the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells IN YOU? If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple YOU ARE."

We are the temple, the Most Holy Place represents our heart. Christ is the Ark. The heavenly manna, representing His own incorruptible life, is within our heart. Aaron's rod that budded, representing His divine appointment and priesthood, is within our heart.

And the tables of the law, His own nature, are within our heart:

  • Hebrews 10:16 "This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, said the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts..."

The mystery is "Christ IN YOU":

  • Colossians 1:26-27 "Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:
 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is CHRIST IN YOU, the hope of glory."
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Re: Rich man and Lazarus (again)
« Reply #56 on: January 19, 2013, 11:15:04 PM »
EW You (nearly) always say what I meant  - only better :Peace2:

Awww, Thanks Bro :o)
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Re: Rich man and Lazarus (again)
« Reply #57 on: April 02, 2013, 03:06:10 AM »
I hope this is the right place to post this.. I finally understand this parable!

I've always figured no humans would hold out stubbornly enough to "go to the lake of fire". Yet so many use this parable to support the ultra ridiculous and highly illogical idea of 'hell'. :flamebreath:

I always chalked this one up to (1) being a parable   :laughing7:  of course, and also (2) the Greek tendency for DRAMA and Jesus was playing along. But since coming to tentmaker site and forum, I see it's probably likely humans may well go to the LOF for individual duration.

I still of course hope not very many! But the understanding feels fuller.. more complete.
(He)will shake heavens & earth--it is against every high tower--He shall judge between nations..they shall beat their swords into plowshares--blessed the one who reveres the Lord--they will never be shaken--a plague of gReat hail(debris)--when the towers fall--(so)Come out my people
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