willieH: Hi thinktank...
You don't know me well (been here for 8yrs or so), so let me preface myself... I speak bluntly. I do not mean any harm or disprespect in my words... just flat-out tell it like it is...
To begin with, (though it is not popular), I am on the JUDAS cheerleading team...
...what he did was certainly not enviable... but definitely a MOST NECESSARY action, that was part of the plan to benefit us all!
You are more than welcome to disagree with what I say...
But know that it shall be accompanied by REASON...
Jesus says these things must be to fullfill scripture
If SCRIPTURE was being FULFILLED (which it was), then JUDAS was the one which the WORD
had already indicated... and had no "choice" to alter what was already noted by the WORD
Not ONE element of the life of CHRIST
was left up to "chance" or the "decisions" of men.
Scripture is NEVER on the -- "let's wait & see what men decide to do" program, or -- is NEVER based on "which disciple decided
to do this or that"...
It is an EXACT and PERFECT notation of what WILL
occur, within the doings of MEN -- Rom 9:16-17
-- Pharaoh didn't "decide" to continue the imprisonment of ISRAEL... GOD decided that he would continue their imprisonment... MOSES didn't "decide" to ask they be FREED... GOD decided that he would ask...
It can be said that in the notation I just presented, that PHARAOH was RAISED by GOD
to Glorify His name in the Earth... that JUDAS was just "as raised", and just as much a part of "Glorification" of God as was PHARAOH...
The WHOLE POINT being that MEN do NOT "decide" any portion, or indeed, the moment of DELIVERANCE... GOD alone "decides" ALL these things.
This is WHY JESUS
clearly stated that He did not KNOW
the day or hour of His return... for only GOD decides that moment, and no man, including CHRIST
, shall know of it.
The betrayer could of been any of the disciples, but Judas was the one who decided to do it, by exchanging him for 30 pieces of " shiekels' of silver he also decided to betray Jesus with a kiss.
I completely disagree with this... "could have been" is something left to random chance, and is no more PERFECTLY foundational than is the "theory of Evolution" for life...
Those who are CHOSEN have had faith
AUTHORED in them, and CHRIST
KEEPS them from FALLING...
If one of FAITH, "falls" (which JUDAS "did"), then CHRIST
) CHOSE and decided that he should "fall", for He is the KEEPER of FAITH
-- Jude 24JESUS
was not "waiting" to see WHO might "choose" to do this? He most certainly KNEW who was going to do it!
JUDAS did not have a "choice" in this matter... no more than PETER had a "choice" in being called "satan" or PAUL got slapped with blindness...
That which comes forth from the mouth of CHRIST
is UNCHANGING and CANNOT be altered ("could've been any of the disciples") --- for it is the totally EXACT, PERFECT, COMPLETE, and WONDERFUL WORD
of GOD Himself.
JUDAS was FULFILLING EXACTLY
what was WRITTEN specifically about HIM
, for HE was the one whichFULLFILLED the BETRAYAL, no other...
Though JUDAS is not "named by name" in the OT as the betrayer of CHRIST
... it IS noted the betrayal would come at the hands of a TRUSTED FRIEND -- Psalm 41:9 -- John 13:18
The "name" JESUS CHRIST
is not even "found" in the OT...
of HOLY PERFECTION is not within the ability of SINFUL MEN to perform... Only by the DIRECTION
of GOD, shall MAN "fulfill" Scripture which is the WORD
of GOD -- Jer 10:23 -- Prov 16:9 -- Prov 20:24
Part of the Sacrifice of CHRIST
was dependent upon a CERTAIN MAN doing a CERTAIN THING at a CERTAIN TIME... this was not just something "idea" that just happened to "occur" to JUDAS... It was WRITTEN and had to be DONE EXACTLY as was WRITTEN... not because "Judas" decided to fink on CHRIST
So according to the universalist position, or at least from my point of view as an universalist, it would be better for him to be cast into the sea and out of sight, not to escape eternal hell, as some Christians interpret, but because of the eternal shame he will have to endure, when he is raised from the dead and becomes face to face with the risen Jesus Christ. A far cry from the meek and lowly Jesus he was accustomed to when he was upon the Earth as a disciple.FIRST
Due to his shame for what he has done im not sure that Judas will desire to be a partaker of Christs sacrifice and so may settle for eternal death.
--- Please, bro I don't mean to be (too) sarcastic, but... Is that what YOU would do? "Choose" eternal death?
JUDAS has already faced his shame...
And the TRUTH is, that without JUDAS or someone JUST like him (a TRUSTED FRIEND), NONE of us would be saved! SECOND
--- there IS no "eternal hell"... there isn't even a "temporary" one... HELL is a teaching of FEAR... FEAR has no part in LOVE
and is CAST OUT by it -- 1 John 4:18THIRD
tasted DEATH for every man... including JUDAS... and no man "settles
" for anything.
ALL MEN ..."do"... as is written OF THEM, from the end of this realm to its beginning -- Isaiah 46:10 -- Rom 4:17
-- which are (end & beginning), the SAME THING -- Rev 1:8Isaiah 46:10
-- DECLARING the END from the BEGINNING, and from ancient times, [the things] that are NOT [yet] DONE... saying MY COUNSEL shall stand... [the WORD] and I WILL DO ...all MY pleasure
How many things (before the beginning) were "NOT done
"? Is it not EVERY
This Scripture is very CLEAR that GOD
is the ONE, actually "DOING
" -- ALL
THESE THINGS... which is also clearly repeated in the NT --- Eph 1:11
pEAce be untaya, new bro...